Flybe-V2
I really don't understand why some simply can't accept that; a) it was a totally legal buy out of administration, b) it is a new business, and c) because - for some strange reason, they just chose to use the same trading name for the new business.
We're not gonna agree on this, an we're entitled to challenge questionable fanboy assertions. Let's see how they do.
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Because you can do perfectly legal things which are in many people's views, unethical. For many people, the dishonesty of having it both ways is wrong. Being a "well loved brand returning" and a "whole new airline with no connection to the old"' is bending credulity so far as to break. I find the whole thing dishonest, they consciously chose this path, there were less controversial options. I mean no one really believes Glasgow Rangers FC dates from 2012 although that's the legal position 😉 If flybe2 succeed, the "whole new business" thing will be airbrushed away, however legally accurate it may be.
We're not gonna agree on this, an we're entitled to challenge questionable fanboy assertions. Let's see how they do.
We're not gonna agree on this, an we're entitled to challenge questionable fanboy assertions. Let's see how they do.
Nothing more needs to said on the subject.
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As far as I can see, both Emerald and Flybe are planning four rotations a day on their Belfast-based aircraft (ATRs and Q4s). If flying short routes like Glasgow, both could probably go to five but look to have the common sense with all of the trouble out there on airports and ground handlers not to do so right now!
Apart from some false sense of confidence that pitching a Q4 against a jet on BHD-LHR is a good idea - which I don't think anyone with an ATR would - then I can't see any difference beyond the fact the Q4 is a lot heavier, burns more fuel and only carries six more passengers (if full - which I doubt anyone will be with competition on most routes).
Apart from some false sense of confidence that pitching a Q4 against a jet on BHD-LHR is a good idea - which I don't think anyone with an ATR would - then I can't see any difference beyond the fact the Q4 is a lot heavier, burns more fuel and only carries six more passengers (if full - which I doubt anyone will be with competition on most routes).
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As far as I can see, both Emerald and Flybe are planning four rotations a day on their Belfast-based aircraft (ATRs and Q4s). If flying short routes like Glasgow, both could probably go to five but look to have the common sense with all of the trouble out there on airports and ground handlers not to do so right now!
Apart from some false sense of confidence that pitching a Q4 against a jet on BHD-LHR is a good idea - which I don't think anyone with an ATR would - then I can't see any difference beyond the fact the Q4 is a lot heavier, burns more fuel and only carries six more passengers (if full - which I doubt anyone will be with competition on most routes).
Apart from some false sense of confidence that pitching a Q4 against a jet on BHD-LHR is a good idea - which I don't think anyone with an ATR would - then I can't see any difference beyond the fact the Q4 is a lot heavier, burns more fuel and only carries six more passengers (if full - which I doubt anyone will be with competition on most routes).
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It's hard to believe this new airline nonsense as it is more or less same crew same management same almost everything. There is just not enough difference for people to believe it is something new or even improved. Back to charging for bags at the gate. But Feddie Laker pulled the same stunt and relaunched Laker but based in US when relaunched
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It's hard to believe this new airline nonsense as it is more or less same crew same management same almost everything. There is just not enough difference for people to believe it is something new or even improved. Back to charging for bags at the gate. But Feddie Laker pulled the same stunt and relaunched Laker but based in US when relaunched
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It's hard to believe this new airline nonsense as it is more or less same crew same management same almost everything. There is just not enough difference for people to believe it is something new or even improved. Back to charging for bags at the gate. But Feddie Laker pulled the same stunt and relaunched Laker but based in US when relaunched
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There is one or two thats the same management.
But irrelevant of that, it is the same business model. But smaller and in more challenging times.
I do wish it to succeed but the odds are against it.
But irrelevant of that, it is the same business model. But smaller and in more challenging times.
I do wish it to succeed but the odds are against it.
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I try to fly as little as possible and we would normally take the train from Birmingham to Berlin, however, Eurostar is sold out for the convenient Saturday morning connection to Cologne via Brussels (May half-term weekend) so we're going to fly to Amsterdam and take the train from there. I found the Flybe website very easy to use and the prices were good. Decent flight times too
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It's very sad that the same old people keep nit picking the same old stuff over and over again like Brexit. Just get over yourself, move on and most importantly SHUT UP!
If Flybe had put new cabins like Porter etc they would have been attacked for wasting money or uncomfortable seats, the way I see it they can't win with these idiots.
From the inaugural flight it appears to me Flybe are taking this comeback very seriously, most experienced captains, most experienced cabin crew on the very first day shows a serious statement of intent to make this business work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdIX-cPCe-I
If Flybe had put new cabins like Porter etc they would have been attacked for wasting money or uncomfortable seats, the way I see it they can't win with these idiots.
From the inaugural flight it appears to me Flybe are taking this comeback very seriously, most experienced captains, most experienced cabin crew on the very first day shows a serious statement of intent to make this business work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdIX-cPCe-I
As for most experienced pilots etc meaning they take it seriously almost any carrier would do that and does do that. BA have a select group of crew just for media flights etc. Did anyone have such low expectations of Flybe2 that they expected something different?
However it’s great to see things seem to have gone smoothly so far given the bad coverage other carriers have had in recent days it should certainly help them further.
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It's very sad that the same old people keep nit picking the same old stuff over and over again like Brexit. Just get over yourself, move on and most importantly SHUT UP!
If Flybe had put new cabins like Porter etc they would have been attacked for wasting money or uncomfortable seats, the way I see it they can't win with these idiots.
From the inaugural flight it appears to me Flybe are taking this comeback very seriously, most experienced captains, most experienced cabin crew on the very first day shows a serious statement of intent to make this business work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdIX-cPCe-I
If Flybe had put new cabins like Porter etc they would have been attacked for wasting money or uncomfortable seats, the way I see it they can't win with these idiots.
From the inaugural flight it appears to me Flybe are taking this comeback very seriously, most experienced captains, most experienced cabin crew on the very first day shows a serious statement of intent to make this business work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdIX-cPCe-I
How have the loads been over the weekend? Like most business its probably had some good loads so hopefully that carries on into the summer.
Does it really matter how experienced the crew is as long as they're delivering the product to the best of their ability?
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Standard Class on the train wouldn’t give refreshments, but First Class usually would. I guess it depends who they feel they are competing with and which passengers they want to attract?
