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Old 19th Sep 2023, 17:02
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
It's an Italian airline operating the flights using a leased a/c. I'm sure they have justified it's use to the Italian authorities, maybe a because it fills a gap in flights they already operate?. Hardly a unique situation. Will there be many a/c of that size available within the EU?
Eastern, as described above, are already operating for ITA between Milan and London City, which lasts until Autumn. Presumably an extension of that arrangement. ITA have ordered new Airbus A220 which should be coming on line now, but with the P&W engine difficulties all bets seem to be off for who can fly what.
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Old 20th Sep 2023, 16:56
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Pax figures on the Paris services are, to put it politely, underwhelming.

For July they were: Cardiff = 770, Southampton = 990 and Cardiff 675.

Works out as 23, 31 and 21 pax per day respectively.
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Old 20th Sep 2023, 20:52
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Originally Posted by TheSpiddalKid
The CAA maybe but I am sure that there are those in government that would say the free market should regulate such practices, where first are seen to be unreliable then they will lose custom and not make enough money to survive (see FlyBe2 for recent case study). This becomes a problem where the company doesn't have competition and makes a profit irrespective of how badly it treats its customers (take your pick of the water companies).
Good point. I guess most airlines would have succumbed by now but T3 are still standing. In a way they deserve some credit but I still cannot get my head around why theyíre based aircraft at LCY and SOU leave 1 hour + late on the first rotation.

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Old 20th Sep 2023, 20:54
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Originally Posted by cavokblues
Pax figures on the Paris services are, to put it politely, underwhelming.

For July they were: Cardiff = 770, Southampton = 990 and Cardiff 675.

Works out as 23, 31 and 21 pax per day respectively.

To be honest I donít think 990 is that bad considering itís one rotation a day with no opportunity for an evening return and that T3 are pretty much completely unknown. Iíd say there is a lot more potential there for an AF or EZY.
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Old 20th Sep 2023, 21:16
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Not bad? It's absolutely dire. Assuming they flew all of the rotations in the month, it's a 22% loadfactor on SOU and worse on CWL and EMA. There is nothing remotely promising about any of it.
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Old 20th Sep 2023, 21:37
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Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
To be honest I donít think 990 is that bad considering itís one rotation a day with no opportunity for an evening return and that T3 are pretty much completely unknown. Iíd say there is a lot more potential there for an AF or EZY.
You would have a point if Eastern were just selling it alone as a point to point service with no support. It's also being sold on the AF website (as they are using AF slots) and so have all that distribution power at their disposal from the home carrier.
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Old 21st Sep 2023, 19:00
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Originally Posted by TartinTon
You would have a point if Eastern were just selling it alone as a point to point service with no support. It's also being sold on the AF website (as they are using AF slots) and so have all that distribution power at their disposal from the home carrier.
I've just looked at the Air France website. SOU Southampton does not immediately appear in the drop down menu of UK airports. I had to type SOU in the airport search engine to search for flights.

The flights were eventually shown as being flown by Eastern Airways obviously with the AF code. But it's not ideal is it for those searching for flights between Southampton and Paris.

SOU Southampton should be on the websites drop down menu for UK airports without having to search for it. No wonder why the route isn't performing as it should be.

Once Air France has the spare aircraft capacity they might want to look at resuming Paris to Southampton themselves, fingers crossed 🤞 I'm sure if they did the flight would perform so much better with an airline everyone is aware of.
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