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Old 13th Jan 2022, 04:50
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Originally Posted by mariofly12
Does this mean that on the LCY-SKG route the plane will be overnighting there (too many expenses) or will it be performing W-pattern flights?

Night Stopping SKGSAT LCY 1200D SKG 1720A
SUN SKG 1200D LCY 1320A

​​​​​​​Ties in nicely with LCY curfew on weekends
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 07:03
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That’ll be a highly sought after duty - Saturday night in SKG and no need to get up early on Sunday.
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 09:26
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It could be that it ends up doing a SOU trip in between and crew get to overnight in Southampton.
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 11:18
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Possibly slightly less attractive!
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 12:22
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Bit of a shame if BA see off Luxair on the Luxembourg run; there wouldn't really be enough demand for both operators at those high frequencies. Luxair have been a particular supporter of LCY through the recent lean times, running services in as soon as allowed; I think they may have been the first Europe-based operator to restart. Demand on this run is almost wholly from the Luxembourg end, which includes the surrounding countries which find Paris, Brussels or Frankfurt too far away.
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 13:55
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Originally Posted by WHBM
Bit of a shame if BA see off Luxair on the Luxembourg run; there wouldn't really be enough demand for both operators at those high frequencies. Luxair have been a particular supporter of LCY through the recent lean times, running services in as soon as allowed; I think they may have been the first Europe-based operator to restart. Demand on this run is almost wholly from the Luxembourg end, which includes the surrounding countries which find Paris, Brussels or Frankfurt too far away.
Indeed. Luxair have been a good customer of LCY.

BA are dropping their LHR flights to LUX and instead launching this so hopefully there is still room for both to survive.
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 14:14
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BA's LUX has now gone LHR/LGW/LHR/LCY. Make up your mind!
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 20:18
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CJ's G-LCAC seems to have had a varied weekend LCY-MAN on Saturday and MAN-CMF-GNB-LCY on Sunday
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 21:41
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Originally Posted by richardwpprn
CJ's G-LCAC seems to have had a varied weekend LCY-MAN on Saturday and MAN-CMF-GNB-LCY on Sunday
LCYN did the exact opposite on the Tuesday before Christmas, I guess it's some beginning/end of seasonality. CityFlyer are pretty proactive at the moment in getting what they can.
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Old 31st Mar 2022, 06:37
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New operator not noticed here previously is German Airways, who appear to be an ACMI operator with Embraer 190s, running the Dusseldorf route for BA and the Milan route for ITA (the old Alitalia in most part, reborn) each into LCY multiple times a day. Both seemed to start with the summer schedules on March 28.
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Old 31st Mar 2022, 07:16
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Originally Posted by WHBM
New operator not noticed here previously is German Airways, who appear to be an ACMI operator with Embraer 190s, running the Dusseldorf route for BA and the Milan route for ITA (the old Alitalia in most part, reborn) each into LCY multiple times a day. Both seemed to start with the summer schedules on March 28.
I thought I had posted here about the ITA flight but must have done it on another forum. ITA have said if the route is a success they will use their A220s when they arrive.
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Old 31st Mar 2022, 08:12
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Originally Posted by WHBM
New operator not noticed here previously is German Airways, who appear to be an ACMI operator with Embraer 190s, running the Dusseldorf route for BA and the Milan route for ITA (the old Alitalia in most part, reborn) each into LCY multiple times a day. Both seemed to start with the summer schedules on March 28.
It is the old WDL that operated a lot into LCY with their knackered BAe 146s (including this famous BA flight that went from LCY to EDI by mistake instead of DUS) . Rebranded as a result of the fleet renewal.

I am tempted to ask if BA has ever operated the DUS route with their own metal... (I know they have, but it seems to be the one that always gets the leased in ACMI-aircraft).
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Old 31st Mar 2022, 08:27
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ITA is of course ATI backwards - the old Italian state carrier from the 1960s-70s with Fokker F27s.

BA was operating Dusseldorf with their own aircraft up to the end of last week, so not too far to think back ...
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Old 31st Mar 2022, 11:42
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Is any LCY operator still regularly using BAe146s/Avros? Off the top of my head only Jota at SEN has them. The 747 got a public send-off and, while I don't suppose there's much fondness for these beasts, they've been a big part of the LCY story.
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Old 31st Mar 2022, 12:28
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Alas nothing scheduled. I actually chanced to notice what turned out to be the probable last such, CityJet (alias Aer Lingus colours) departing one Saturday morning to Dublin, early into the lockdown. They gave up after that weekend, and I don't think any such aircraft has been scheduled since.

Jota were in at LCY a couple of weeks ago with a charter from Liverpool, possibly a football team, a market which they do quite a lot of work for (shades of the old Scot Airways), so we haven't seen the end of the aircraft yet, and their crews still maintain the particular LCY currency. Jota was indeed my last RJ trip, shortly before the lockdown, operating a BA substitute from Dublin to LCY, although this work seems to have dropped off for them. I believe they have moved their base from Southend to Biggin Hill
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Old 24th May 2022, 18:24
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New route to Deauville in northern France - operated by RAF Avia, based in Latvia, with a Saab 340
https://lodyssey.ch/
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Old 24th May 2022, 18:32
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
New route to Deauville in northern France - operated by RAF Avia, based in Latvia, with a Saab 340
https://lodyssey.ch/
Blink and you’ll miss it would be my bet….
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Old 24th May 2022, 18:39
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
New route to Deauville in northern France - operated by RAF Avia, based in Latvia, with a Saab 340
When I last encountered them, they were an Antonov 24 operator.

Now wouldn't that be a belter for LCY ?
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Old 24th May 2022, 18:51
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Cityjet flew a Fokker 50 between Deauville and London City about 5 or 10 years ago. L'Odyssey look to be charging rather higher fares than Cityjet used to though....

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Old 24th May 2022, 20:15
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I wonder how much demand there will be at €800+ for a return journey.
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