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Old 7th Oct 2023, 18:13
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly
Yes a number of TUI UK 737s (mix of NGs and MAXs) will head over this winter.
sadly this agreement has come to an end so no TUI G reg aircraft’s will go over to Canada this winter.
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Old 8th Oct 2023, 18:07
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wonder if any 787s need any heavier checks over winter so they could finally get a respray, some of those with patched up Thomson paint overs look a right old mess. Though they probably hope with airbridges the standard punter won’t notice… you know what they say… ‘dirty house….’
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Old 8th Oct 2023, 19:09
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
wonder if any 787s need any heavier checks over winter so they could finally get a respray, some of those with patched up Thomson paint overs look a right old mess. Though they probably hope with airbridges the standard punter won’t notice… you know what they say… ‘dirty house….’
I flew on TAWX this summer and the titles/paintwork was looking pretty ropey around the front door as we got on. Must have been bad as my wife commented on it!
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Old 9th Oct 2023, 15:36
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Originally Posted by GBYAJ
I flew on TAWX this summer and the titles/paintwork was looking pretty ropey around the front door as we got on. Must have been bad as my wife commented on it!
Yeah flew of WX just over a month ago and its a right mess where the patches have been put over. The 788's are really looking worn out now some are around 10 years old they are desperate for a lick of paint.
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Old 9th Oct 2023, 19:41
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Originally Posted by FCAcrewboy
sadly this agreement has come to an end so no TUI G reg aircraft’s will go over to Canada this winter.
You're incorrect. Whilst it is coming to an end, there will be TUI Airways aircraft going across to Canada this winter.
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Old 9th Oct 2023, 19:44
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly
You're incorrect. Whilst it is coming to an end, there will be TUI Airways aircraft going across to Canada this winter.
So is this the last exchange? As I understand no Canadian aircraft are heading our way next year??
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Old 9th Oct 2023, 19:50
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Originally Posted by P330
So is this the last exchange? As I understand no Canadian aircraft are heading our way next year??
That's correct. As it stands, there will be no more exchanges with the long running Sunwing seasonal agreement. Westjets plan is to fully integrate the Sunwing airline brand into theirs by the end of next summer at the latest.
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 20:43
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TUI Summer 2024 Flights

current aircraft allocation for Summer 2024 (based on August flights):-

B789 :- 2 x LGW, 2 x MAN, 1 x BHX (5 aircraft)

B788 :- 3 x LGW, 2 x MAN, 1 x BHX, 2 aircraft split between MAN (Mon/Tue/Thu), GLA (Wed-Mon), NCL (Fri-Wed) (8 aircraft)

B7M8 :- 6 x BRS, 5 x MAN, 3 x LGW, 3 x GLA, 3 x NCL, 2 x BHX, 1 x EMA (23 aircraft)

B738 :- 6 x BHX, 6 x MAN, 4 x LGW, 4 x EMA, 2 x BOH, 2 x CWL, 2 x NCL, 2 x STN, 1 x BFS, 1 x EXT, 1 x GLA, 1 x LTN, 1 x NWI (33 aircraft)

A320 :- 4 x LGW, 2 x BHX, 2 x DUB, 1 x CWL, 1 x EMA (10 aircraft)

this aircraft allocation indicates 5 new 737 Maxs to be delivered between now and summer, and at least 3 738's to be leased (Enter Air?) or purchased, and of course the usual mix of leased A320's from Avion Express, SmartLynx, Titan.

spare aircraft, possibly the same as this summer, 1 x 789, 2 x 738's, 2 x A320's?
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 22:32
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Thought TUI & Air Enter were creating a JV called Fly4 as a vehicle to do the leased in aircraft and are starting the process of hire of crews already?
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 22:52
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Originally Posted by Matt995
current aircraft allocation for Summer 2024 (based on August flights):-

B789 :- 2 x LGW, 2 x MAN, 1 x BHX (5 aircraft)

B788 :- 3 x LGW, 2 x MAN, 1 x BHX, 2 aircraft split between MAN (Mon/Tue/Thu), GLA (Wed-Mon), NCL (Fri-Wed) (8 aircraft)

B7M8 :- 6 x BRS, 5 x MAN, 3 x LGW, 3 x GLA, 3 x NCL, 2 x BHX, 1 x EMA (23 aircraft)

B738 :- 6 x BHX, 6 x MAN, 4 x LGW, 4 x EMA, 2 x BOH, 2 x CWL, 2 x NCL, 2 x STN, 1 x BFS, 1 x EXT, 1 x GLA, 1 x LTN, 1 x NWI (33 aircraft)

A320 :- 4 x LGW, 2 x BHX, 2 x DUB, 1 x CWL, 1 x EMA (10 aircraft)

this aircraft allocation indicates 5 new 737 Maxs to be delivered between now and summer, and at least 3 738's to be leased (Enter Air?) or purchased, and of course the usual mix of leased A320's from Avion Express, SmartLynx, Titan.

spare aircraft, possibly the same as this summer, 1 x 789, 2 x 738's, 2 x A320's?
NCL has a based 788.
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 23:26
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Originally Posted by JonnyH
NCL has a based 788.
currently no 788 departures are showing for NCL on a Wednesday or Thursday, so aircraft goes to Manchester for those 2 days.

NCL 788 schedule:- Monday:- Cancun, Tuesday:- Orlando, Wednesday/Thursday:- no departures, Friday:- Cancun, Saturday:- Orlando, Sunday:- Dalaman & Antalya
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Originally Posted by Matt995
currently no 788 departures are showing for NCL on a Wednesday or Thursday, so aircraft goes to Manchester for those 2 days.

NCL 788 schedule:- Monday:- Cancun, Tuesday:- Orlando, Wednesday/Thursday:- no departures, Friday:- Cancun, Saturday:- Orlando, Sunday:- Dalaman & Antalya
Even more impressive for NCL the 787 stays all summer operating MLB & CUN throughout unlike BHX that has lost a 787 and one of the ones that stays goes elsewhere for a month reducing Melbourne to weekly making NCL having more high-summer seats but BHX does start in March.

Although the BHX base moves to 12 aircraft seats are slightly down due to the 787 loss, there is still no Almeria so rather adding routes they are reducing them whereas Jet2, Ryanair and easyjet are going in the other direction. Obviously suffering at BHX but I suppose there had to be one loser with increase from the others (Ryanair movements are down S24 but full schedule not released and it looks like one extra aircraft is likely or more away based).

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Old 13th Oct 2023, 11:21
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Isn't Melbourne 3 times a week this summer out of NCL?
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 11:36
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Isn't Melbourne 3 times a week this summer out of NCL?
it was supposed to be hence why my understanding was NCL had a based 788. Perhaps they’ve dropped it.
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 11:44
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Originally Posted by JonnyH
it was supposed to be hence why my understanding was NCL had a based 788. Perhaps they’ve dropped it.
I meant summer 2023 - so two a week in 2024 would be a reduction, with the Sunday MLB flight replaced by the Turkish flights.. It's also probable that the 788 is based for summer 2024 - just because it does a couple of days of flying away doesn't necessarily change that. Presumably 'based' will be down to where the crew are located.
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 12:58
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Do we have a Summer 2023 timetable available? Appreciate it's in the past but would be good to see 767/787 use on it.
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 15:30
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All TUI 787 pilots are ONLY based at LGW/BHX/MAN
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 20:39
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Originally Posted by Smudge's Lot
All TUI 787 pilots are ONLY based at LGW/BHX/MAN
don’t think that is correct. Our return flight from PVR to MAN this summer had a GLA based crew. I was talking to one of the cabin crew who described how her allocation of flights works. Fly from GLA to CUN, then domestic flights to PVR, PVR to MAN, then ground transport back to GLA.

I think NCL also has a long haul crew based but not 100% certain.
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 21:03
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Originally Posted by simonwa
don’t think that is correct. Our return flight from PVR to MAN this summer had a GLA based crew. I was talking to one of the cabin crew who described how her allocation of flights works. Fly from GLA to CUN, then domestic flights to PVR, PVR to MAN, then ground transport back to GLA.

I think NCL also has a long haul crew based but not 100% certain.
Pilots are not cabin crew and the crews are not always the same ones together.
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 21:16
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Originally Posted by Matt995
current aircraft allocation for Summer 2024 (based on August flights):-

B789 :- 2 x LGW, 2 x MAN, 1 x BHX (5 aircraft)

B788 :- 3 x LGW, 2 x MAN, 1 x BHX, 2 aircraft split between MAN (Mon/Tue/Thu), GLA (Wed-Mon), NCL (Fri-Wed) (8 aircraft)

B7M8 :- 6 x BRS, 5 x MAN, 3 x LGW, 3 x GLA, 3 x NCL, 2 x BHX, 1 x EMA (23 aircraft)

B738 :- 6 x BHX, 6 x MAN, 4 x LGW, 4 x EMA, 2 x BOH, 2 x CWL, 2 x NCL, 2 x STN, 1 x BFS, 1 x EXT, 1 x GLA, 1 x LTN, 1 x NWI (33 aircraft)

A320 :- 4 x LGW, 2 x BHX, 2 x DUB, 1 x CWL, 1 x EMA (10 aircraft)

this aircraft allocation indicates 5 new 737 Maxs to be delivered between now and summer, and at least 3 738's to be leased (Enter Air?) or purchased, and of course the usual mix of leased A320's from Avion Express, SmartLynx, Titan.

spare aircraft, possibly the same as this summer, 1 x 789, 2 x 738's, 2 x A320's?
That PDF is extremely helpful. Thanks so much for that and putting it together. It must have taken loads of time
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