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Hurn, Bournemouth Airport has always really been a holiday airport situated up a country village lane and the transport infrastructure has never really been addressed to serve it.
Folk on package holidays will be dropped off by family/friends/taxis or they will park their car at the airport car parks.
No real effort has ever been made to have an airport bus link to town, although attempts do vary...Nothing will change, even with TUI and Ryanair having 4 x 737 types based there next summer24.
If there are 4 departures leaving within 0600h and 0730h there will be close to 800 pax departing -
Hope the ground handling agents have started planning their staff requirements for April 2024 onwards to ensure they can cope.
BTW EXT has far better public transport links these days.
Flying from/to on holiday at Hurn is great - as long as you have a lift booked, or your motor is in the car park.
Folk on package holidays will be dropped off by family/friends/taxis or they will park their car at the airport car parks.
No real effort has ever been made to have an airport bus link to town, although attempts do vary...Nothing will change, even with TUI and Ryanair having 4 x 737 types based there next summer24.
If there are 4 departures leaving within 0600h and 0730h there will be close to 800 pax departing -
Hope the ground handling agents have started planning their staff requirements for April 2024 onwards to ensure they can cope.
BTW EXT has far better public transport links these days.
Flying from/to on holiday at Hurn is great - as long as you have a lift booked, or your motor is in the car park.
Currently the road network is unlikely to cope. Especially in main commuting hours. The airport entrance has two schools sited for example. With cargo in mind too, there will be a large number of lorries also clogging up the current route.
A new access route would require building on undeveloped and protected land, however it would provide more benefits than negatives.
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Quite astonishing that BOH is achieving this growth with no public transport links whatsoever.
I think at some airports like Luton, the proportion of passengers using public transport to access the airport is like 20-25%? Bournemouth is really limiting its potential not catering to people that can’t drive.
I think at some airports like Luton, the proportion of passengers using public transport to access the airport is like 20-25%? Bournemouth is really limiting its potential not catering to people that can’t drive.
looking at the cargo ops is the same issue, European Cargo is owned by a pure chancer who did very well building a cargo business to bring PPE in during the pandemic. Now the demand for PPE is at a level that normal cargo hubs can provide you have a bunch of aircraft sitting around doing nothing. Any cargo operator would be mad to put their freight through an airport with poor road connections.
BOH does very well having fingers in many pies but none of them are ever going to be anything to write home about. Think about Bournemouth as an actual place and what there is there to even stimulate a sizeable customer base in the first place. It’s never going to happen in the same way a Blackpool or a Manston is never going to happen.
I don't think cheap fares come in to it except on some of the Ryanair routes
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Come on guys, no one is flying from BOH because of the airport. It’s purely to get the cheap fairs. It’s the same argument when you meet people down this way who go all the way to Stanstead to catch a flight. If the cheap operators move somewhere else all the passengers will follow. It’s very precarious which is why you won’t see any investment from BOH. There has always been a make hay whilst the sun shines vibe going on. They will always have their bucket and spades market for all the old people that retire down that way but nothing more.
looking at the cargo ops is the same issue, European Cargo is owned by a pure chancer who did very well building a cargo business to bring PPE in during the pandemic. Now the demand for PPE is at a level that normal cargo hubs can provide you have a bunch of aircraft sitting around doing nothing. Any cargo operator would be mad to put their freight through an airport with poor road connections.
BOH does very well having fingers in many pies but none of them are ever going to be anything to write home about. Think about Bournemouth as an actual place and what there is there to even stimulate a sizeable customer base in the first place. It’s never going to happen in the same way a Blackpool or a Manston is never going to happen.
looking at the cargo ops is the same issue, European Cargo is owned by a pure chancer who did very well building a cargo business to bring PPE in during the pandemic. Now the demand for PPE is at a level that normal cargo hubs can provide you have a bunch of aircraft sitting around doing nothing. Any cargo operator would be mad to put their freight through an airport with poor road connections.
BOH does very well having fingers in many pies but none of them are ever going to be anything to write home about. Think about Bournemouth as an actual place and what there is there to even stimulate a sizeable customer base in the first place. It’s never going to happen in the same way a Blackpool or a Manston is never going to happen.
The flights are not ‘cheap’ the local community of which I am one use the airport regularly for ease of use and are happy to pay the extra. A FR or TUI flight is often considerably more from BOH on the main routes than it is from major airports. I know this as I choose to pay rather than travel further. The fact TUI are expanding as have FR seem to align to this. It’s convenient and a rather nice clean modern airport. If it ever needs to expand I am sure the capacity is there to do so without much difficulty. I can’t see that happening as it will take another 250k managed well IMO.
Yes public transport is appalling. A transport hub circuit shuttle bus to the local 3 stations (again to point out BCP has 3 stations within a short distance of the airport, a further 3 more not far further), would be a sensible investment by a mix of the airport:local authority, but like all public transport it needs to be run continuously at regular hours for it become known and used well. Not a few hours a day to suit the business park or abandoned after a few months.
On another matter not related. Some time ago I remember issues with people creating a SOU vs BOH negative environment on each respective page. It wasn’t pleasant then and I hope it isn’t creeping in again. If you don’t use or like BOH or SOU for that matter, don’t use them. Enjoy the good news from both on their respective pages.
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Anyway…… It seems that cargo ops have resumed. A European A340 (G-ECLB) is due in Bournemouth today having been in China the last few days. Hopefully this is the start of a routine schedule between Bournemouth & China with regards to cargo.
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I was of course referring to FR that no passenger likes as an operation and who certainly have no loyalty with anybody so hence the precarious comment.
I flew with them last month. Very satisfactory. They do exactly what they say on the tin. If people don't measure their bags and pay if need be it's their look out.
If by precarious you mean they don't go anywhere where they can't make money or get a good deal or stay if that changes that's business. Supermarkets are much the same.
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Ryanair have started to load there winter 2034/24 schedule and some more increases in there routes which is great news
ALC 3 flights to x 4
AGP. 2 flights to x 3
TFS 1 flight to x 2
MLA 1 flight to x 2
FAO 2 flights to x 3
Las Palmas , Venice and Lanzarote continue into winter now as does Krakow and Wrocław
The BOH based aircraft is now used every day for services rather than just 3 x week this past winter
Edinburgh, Budapest and Dublin still to be loaded
ALC 3 flights to x 4
AGP. 2 flights to x 3
TFS 1 flight to x 2
MLA 1 flight to x 2
FAO 2 flights to x 3
Las Palmas , Venice and Lanzarote continue into winter now as does Krakow and Wrocław
The BOH based aircraft is now used every day for services rather than just 3 x week this past winter
Edinburgh, Budapest and Dublin still to be loaded
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Ryanair have started to load there winter 2034/24 schedule and some more increases in there routes which is great news
ALC 3 flights to x 4
AGP. 2 flights to x 3
TFS 1 flight to x 2
MLA 1 flight to x 2
Las Palmas , Venice and Lanzarote continue into winter now as does Krakow and Wrocław
The BOH based aircraft is now used every day for services rather than just 3 x week this past winter
Faro , Edinburgh, Budapest and Dublin still to be loaded
ALC 3 flights to x 4
AGP. 2 flights to x 3
TFS 1 flight to x 2
MLA 1 flight to x 2
Las Palmas , Venice and Lanzarote continue into winter now as does Krakow and Wrocław
The BOH based aircraft is now used every day for services rather than just 3 x week this past winter
Faro , Edinburgh, Budapest and Dublin still to be loaded
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Interesting to see EasyJet have reduced their Geneva schedule for W23/24.[/QUOTE]
The EasyJet schedule is the same as in past seasons it’s not been reduced
EasyJet in passed years have added extra dates but in a much later date
The EasyJet schedule is the same as in past seasons it’s not been reduced
EasyJet in passed years have added extra dates but in a much later date
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EasyJet in passed years have added extra dates but in a much later date[/QUOTE]
I see. Hopefully we can expect to see a schedule similar to W22/23 too then.
Out of curiosity, where do you find information regarding new routes prior to them becoming available for sale?
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Is it just by coincidence that Jet2 Boeing 737-300, G-GDFL arrived into Bournemouth from Leeds yesterday. Looks like it's due to return North later this evening.
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It has been rumoured however that Jet2 may be adding a new airport to their portfolio. Since they don’t have much presents down south, I’m hopeful it’ll be Bournemouth. Quite unlikely however.
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As much as I would like to see a Jet2 base at Bournemouth, I doubt it will ever happen. Bournemouth does not have the catchment size to justify it as they would want scale over and above what is a very respectable current route network with Tui and FR.
Further growth at Bournemouth would be from the likes of Wizzair resuming their flying to a few places after a 15 year gap, and perhaps a 3rd Ryanair aircraft in 2024/25? easyJet should certainly be trying Malaga, Faro, Alicante, Palma and Tenerife to give Ryanair some much needed competition on those key and quite thick routes.
Bournemouth should be able to easily process 1.5m-1.75m passengers a year, but I think that is their limit given the proximity to Heathrow, Gatwick and even Luton with its multitude of airlines, destinations and schedule choice just 90-120mins up the road. Unless the urban population of Bournemouth doubles from 400k to 800k over the next 20years, or Southampton airport closes (unlikely), I don't see where growth comes from?
Further growth at Bournemouth would be from the likes of Wizzair resuming their flying to a few places after a 15 year gap, and perhaps a 3rd Ryanair aircraft in 2024/25? easyJet should certainly be trying Malaga, Faro, Alicante, Palma and Tenerife to give Ryanair some much needed competition on those key and quite thick routes.
Bournemouth should be able to easily process 1.5m-1.75m passengers a year, but I think that is their limit given the proximity to Heathrow, Gatwick and even Luton with its multitude of airlines, destinations and schedule choice just 90-120mins up the road. Unless the urban population of Bournemouth doubles from 400k to 800k over the next 20years, or Southampton airport closes (unlikely), I don't see where growth comes from?
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As much as I would like to see a Jet2 base at Bournemouth, I doubt it will ever happen. Bournemouth does not have the catchment size to justify it as they would want scale over and above what is a very respectable current route network with Tui and FR.
Further growth at Bournemouth would be from the likes of Wizzair resuming their flying to a few places after a 15 year gap, and perhaps a 3rd Ryanair aircraft in 2024/25? easyJet should certainly be trying Malaga, Faro, Alicante, Palma and Tenerife to give Ryanair some much needed competition on those key and quite thick routes.
Bournemouth should be able to easily process 1.5m-1.75m passengers a year, but I think that is their limit given the proximity to Heathrow, Gatwick and even Luton with its multitude of airlines, destinations and schedule choice just 90-120mins up the road. Unless the urban population of Bournemouth doubles from 400k to 800k over the next 20years, or Southampton airport closes (unlikely), I don't see where growth comes from?
Further growth at Bournemouth would be from the likes of Wizzair resuming their flying to a few places after a 15 year gap, and perhaps a 3rd Ryanair aircraft in 2024/25? easyJet should certainly be trying Malaga, Faro, Alicante, Palma and Tenerife to give Ryanair some much needed competition on those key and quite thick routes.
Bournemouth should be able to easily process 1.5m-1.75m passengers a year, but I think that is their limit given the proximity to Heathrow, Gatwick and even Luton with its multitude of airlines, destinations and schedule choice just 90-120mins up the road. Unless the urban population of Bournemouth doubles from 400k to 800k over the next 20years, or Southampton airport closes (unlikely), I don't see where growth comes from?
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As much as I would like to see a Jet2 base at Bournemouth, I doubt it will ever happen. Bournemouth does not have the catchment size to justify it as they would want scale over and above what is a very respectable current route network with Tui and FR.
Further growth at Bournemouth would be from the likes of Wizzair resuming their flying to a few places after a 15 year gap, and perhaps a 3rd Ryanair aircraft in 2024/25? easyJet should certainly be trying Malaga, Faro, Alicante, Palma and Tenerife to give Ryanair some much needed competition on those key and quite thick routes.
Bournemouth should be able to easily process 1.5m-1.75m passengers a year, but I think that is their limit given the proximity to Heathrow, Gatwick and even Luton with its multitude of airlines, destinations and schedule choice just 90-120mins up the road. Unless the urban population of Bournemouth doubles from 400k to 800k over the next 20years, or Southampton airport closes (unlikely), I don't see where growth comes from?
Further growth at Bournemouth would be from the likes of Wizzair resuming their flying to a few places after a 15 year gap, and perhaps a 3rd Ryanair aircraft in 2024/25? easyJet should certainly be trying Malaga, Faro, Alicante, Palma and Tenerife to give Ryanair some much needed competition on those key and quite thick routes.
Bournemouth should be able to easily process 1.5m-1.75m passengers a year, but I think that is their limit given the proximity to Heathrow, Gatwick and even Luton with its multitude of airlines, destinations and schedule choice just 90-120mins up the road. Unless the urban population of Bournemouth doubles from 400k to 800k over the next 20years, or Southampton airport closes (unlikely), I don't see where growth comes from?
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You mention the growth may come to BOH if SOU were ever to close, but I disagree. The only airline that I could imagine may move over would be KLM. I really can't see a scenario where Aer Lingus Regional or Eastern or Blue Islands/Aurigny moved to BOH. They would do more from London instead.
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