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I was surprised this was not reported here at the time. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2396306.html
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I see Emirates are advertising for a 'Lounge Supervisor': https://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com...d-apply/387522
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I see Emirates are advertising for a 'Lounge Supervisor': https://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com...d-apply/387522
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Other than it looking like the route will be staying for a while does this give any clues as to future intentions? Eg increase to 3x daily, A380? What is the normal threshold for this type of appointment elsewhere in their network?
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Pre-covid Emirates had agreed that they would go up to 4 daily flights within a set time period can’t remember what this was exactly but it was over a couple of years. But this had certain parameters for MAG. I remember these being the capacity for a lounge, a double airbridge and the airport having a porter service for the first and business class passengers, they had other requests but can’t remember what they where now.
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Don’t understand your first point. What has given indications that they wouldn’t stay at Stansted ?
Pre-covid Emirates had agreed that they would go up to 4 daily flights within a set time period can’t remember what this was exactly but it was over a couple of years. But this had certain parameters for MAG. I remember these being the capacity for a lounge, a double airbridge and the airport having a porter service for the first and business class passengers, they had other requests but can’t remember what they where now.
Pre-covid Emirates had agreed that they would go up to 4 daily flights within a set time period can’t remember what this was exactly but it was over a couple of years. But this had certain parameters for MAG. I remember these being the capacity for a lounge, a double airbridge and the airport having a porter service for the first and business class passengers, they had other requests but can’t remember what they where now.
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FedEx MD11’s
Heard from a friend in Airfield Ops last night, that last nights FX34 to CDG would be the last time FedEx would operate the type to Stansted on scheduled operations.
Same if this is the case. Do love seeing the MD11’s.
Same if this is the case. Do love seeing the MD11’s.
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I believe the airport fire services gave it a water salute on departure.
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Both Maastricht and Vaxjo disappear from the schedules during winter 2023-24. I'm aware that S24 schedules are not fully published, so not possible to infer 100% from the FR website what will and won't be flown next year. Anyone able to say definitively if these routes are coming back or not ?
TBH - I'm surprised that STN-Orebro is being flown in W23/24 but not STN-Vaxjo - unless there's a big pile of "marketing subsidy" cash somewhere
TBH - I'm surprised that STN-Orebro is being flown in W23/24 but not STN-Vaxjo - unless there's a big pile of "marketing subsidy" cash somewhere
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I've viewed some recently uploaded footage on YouTube over the last few weeks from Stansted showing various cargo movements. Several of those cargo movements I viewed got my attention.
Have Martinair KLM resumed regular cargo flights?
Are the Air Belgium/Hongyuan Group B74F flight's operated on a scheduled basis?
Have the CMA CGM A330F flights been operated on behalf of the Hongyuan Group or just ad-hoc cargo flights.
I would be very interested if there was a full and complete updated cargo schedule for London Stansted to view or download.
London Stansted has quite a variety of scheduled cargo flights from various carriers including the following.
Asiana
ASL
Cargolux
China Cargo Airlines
China Southern Airlines
DHL
FedEx
Qatar Airways Cargo
Silk Ways Airlines Cargo
Turkish Airlines Cargo
Turkmenistan Airlines
UPS
West Atlantic
Are there any other scheduled cargo carrier's currently operating to London Stansted that I have missed on the above list?
In the past London Stansted has seen various scheduled cargo flights operated by quite a variety of airlines including the following.
Aeroflot Cargo
Aerologic
Air France Cargo
Astral Aviation
British Airways World Cargo
Cathay Pacific Airways Cargo
Dragonair Cargo
Egyptair Cargo
Emery Worldwide Airlines
Etihad Cargo
GSS Global Supply Systems
Hong Kong Airlines Cargo
Korean Air Cargo
Japan Airlines Cargo
Lufthansa Cargo
Martinair Cargo
MK Airlines
NCA Nippon Cargo Airlines
Singapore Airlines Cargo
Are there any carrier's that previously operated "scheduled" cargo flights to London Stansted that have I missed on the above list?
Looking towards the future, are there any possible new cargo entrants to initiate service to London Stansted?
Maybe the following carrier's could be possible contenders. All suggestive more than anything else.
Air Canada Cargo
ANA Cargo (NCA Nippon Cargo Airlines recently been bought out by ANA)
Ethiopian Airlines Cargo
Latam Cargo
Saudia Airlines Cargo
All of the above airline's are currently expanding their worldwide cargo operations both with new aircraft and new routes. None of the above airline's currently serve the UK market with "dedicated and scheduled" cargo flights.
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KLM/Martinair have not returned. Don’t believe they have had scheduled service since pre covid.
Air Belgium have been operating three times a week using B748’s and A332’s.
ASL and West Atlantic operate on contracts with Royal Mail, DHL and FedEx. Both have occasional charter flights but nothing scheduled themselves.
CMA CGN operates for Turkish Airlines and flying under Turkish flight numbers.
Also to note Ethiopian Cargo does go into LHR plus a number of the other airlines you’ve mentioned will use belly freight space on their own passengers operations.
Air Belgium have been operating three times a week using B748’s and A332’s.
ASL and West Atlantic operate on contracts with Royal Mail, DHL and FedEx. Both have occasional charter flights but nothing scheduled themselves.
CMA CGN operates for Turkish Airlines and flying under Turkish flight numbers.
Also to note Ethiopian Cargo does go into LHR plus a number of the other airlines you’ve mentioned will use belly freight space on their own passengers operations.
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KLM/Martinair have not returned. Don’t believe they have had scheduled service since pre covid.
Air Belgium have been operating three times a week using B748’s and A332’s.
ASL and West Atlantic operate on contracts with Royal Mail, DHL and FedEx. Both have occasional charter flights but nothing scheduled themselves.
CMA CGN operates for Turkish Airlines and flying under Turkish flight numbers.
Air Belgium have been operating three times a week using B748’s and A332’s.
ASL and West Atlantic operate on contracts with Royal Mail, DHL and FedEx. Both have occasional charter flights but nothing scheduled themselves.
CMA CGN operates for Turkish Airlines and flying under Turkish flight numbers.
I know that I shouldn't have really added ASL and West Atlantic to the list. I added them knowing full well that they operate on behalf DHL, FedEx and the Royal Mail.
So the Air Belgium/Hongyuan Group flights are indeed scheduled flights.
Many thanks for quickly responding and sharing the information, it's much appreciated.
In the various footage I've recently viewed on YouTube I've seen a couple of KLM Martinair B74F movements.
I've also noticed that there have been some recent KLM Martinair B74F flight's at London Stansted on flightradar24. Those flights have been operated by a B74F and usually been on a Sunday if I remember correctly.
All of the above was the reason to ask if KLM Martinair had actually resumed dedicated scheduled cargo flights to London Stansted.
Obviously I'm well aware of airlines taking "under belly" cargo including those particular airlines I mentioned.
I wasn't aware of the fact that Ethiopian Airlines operate "dedicated scheduled cargo" flights into London Heathrow. Regarding the other potential airlines I mentioned, none of them don't hence why I added them as possible contenders.
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I think the KLM Martinair B74F movements are for racehorses so irregular.
Ethiopian Airlines might find spare slots at LHR hard to get hold of soon, so they might need a new home.
Ethiopian Airlines might find spare slots at LHR hard to get hold of soon, so they might need a new home.
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I too was thinking exactly the same regarding Ethiopian Airlines. Hence why I added them to my list👍