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Old 18th Apr 2023, 15:59
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Originally Posted by JW95
Ahh, a shame unfortunately there is no date anywhere on the webpage as to when these plans relate to, so it isn't clear if this project was intended pre-pandemic or not, and to be honest, I don't recall having seen this pre-covid. They look great through, and I must say, a long overdue upgrade for SAT 2 if it comes to fruition.
Itís definitely not current as MAG has no plans in the pipe line that are confirmed let alone plans being made. Most of the plans are all going at at MAN with the money made by STN and EMA
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Old 18th Apr 2023, 17:03
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Originally Posted by STN406
The Track Transit System (TTS) and Advance Passenger Vehicle (APV) are two separate things. The TTS takes you to Gate 1-19 and 20-39 and the APV is Gates 90-93.
So APV or advance passenger vehicle = bus?
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Old 18th Apr 2023, 19:09
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Originally Posted by pamann
So APV or advance passenger vehicle = bus?
No APV means APV itís a building type. For stansted itís the building you get a bus to your gate.
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Old 18th Apr 2023, 19:34
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Why do you need a bus to Gates 90-93? Aren't they accesible via the walkway?
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Old 18th Apr 2023, 19:39
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
Why do you need a bus to Gates 90-93? Aren't they accesible via the walkway?
They mean its the gates where you get a bus from which takes passengers to the remote stands in the Echo apron
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Old 18th Apr 2023, 21:53
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Ah thanks FRatSTN, makes sense.
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Old 21st Apr 2023, 11:56
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Tui UK adds 1.1 million seats for summer 2024 | Travel Weekly

"30,000 seats added to and from Stansted"

Sadly not an awful lot compared to other airports and remains at 2 a/c. I assume additional morning slots would be tricky to obtain even if they wanted to add additional air frames.

Changes for S24 compared to S23 include additional PFO and RHO on a Tuesday and DLM on a Thursday, all seemingly replacing AYT services which remain on sale with duplicate times. Tuesday DLM switches to a third party operator. I assume AYT will also be changed to another operator in due course, can't see that route being cancelled.
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Old 21st Apr 2023, 17:48
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Originally Posted by FRatSTN
Tui UK adds 1.1 million seats for summer 2024 | Travel Weekly

"30,000 seats added to and from Stansted"

Sadly not an awful lot compared to other airports and remains at 2 a/c. I assume additional morning slots would be tricky to obtain even if they wanted to add additional air frames.

Changes for S24 compared to S23 include additional PFO and RHO on a Tuesday and DLM on a Thursday, all seemingly replacing AYT services which remain on sale with duplicate times. Tuesday DLM switches to a third party operator. I assume AYT will also be changed to another operator in due course, can't see that route being cancelled.
Looks highly likely these will be the Sun Express transfer from Luton?
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Old 21st Apr 2023, 18:25
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Originally Posted by Falcon666
Looks highly likely these will be the Sun Express transfer from Luton?
Iíd say more likely whole charters using one of the many Turkish outfits. This summerís Friday Dalaman is moving from Tui metal to Freebird Airlines. Iíd expect more of this next year.
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Old 3rd May 2023, 00:55
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Air Moldova suspending operations (again)
https://www.airmoldova.md/news-recor...a-a-companiei/

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Old 4th May 2023, 11:07
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
Air Moldova suspending operations (again)
https://www.airmoldova.md/news-recor...a-a-companiei/
Hoping it won't go down the same route as Blue Air did and disappear Would be a shame for STN too.
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Old 9th May 2023, 16:19
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I have a feeling that FR is set to become quite a bit busier at STN going forward following todays order for the new 737-MAX10. It'll be interesting how this will be handled going forward, particularly boarding 228 passengers from the smaller gates with limited/no seating. Can we assume that satellite 4 is in the pipeline?
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Old 10th May 2023, 13:43
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Originally Posted by JW95
I have a feeling that FR is set to become quite a bit busier at STN going forward following todays order for the new 737-MAX10. It'll be interesting how this will be handled going forward, particularly boarding 228 passengers from the smaller gates with limited/no seating. Can we assume that satellite 4 is in the pipeline?

Planes arenít arriving till 2027! Yes Stansted is going to get busier but itís not going to be solely due to these planes arriving in 4 years.
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Old 12th May 2023, 13:05
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April 2023 pax

STN – 2,350,679 down 1.6% on Apr 2019

MAN – 2,176,450 down 8.9% on Apr 2019

EMA – 312,361 down 20.6% on Apr 2019



Manchester Airports Group (MAG) served 4.8 million passengers in April, as passenger operations continue to ramp-up towards the peak summer season.

MAG, which owns and operates Manchester, London Stansted and East Midlands Airports saw year-on-year passenger numbers increase by 16.4%.

London Stansted and Manchester Airport both served more than 2 million passengers each, totalling 2.4m and 2.2m passengers respectively. Stansted’s overall figure was up 16% on last year, with Manchester’s increasing by 15% year-on-year.

East Midlands Airport saw the highest overall percentage increase for the month of April, serving more than 300,000 passengers – up 25% on 2022.

MAG’s rolling 12-month passenger total to April 2023 stood at 54.8 million passengers – up 123% on the total to April 2022.

Service levels across all three airports remain strong, with 99% of passengers at East Midlands Airport getting through security in under 15 minutes. At London Stansted the figure stood at 98%, and at Manchester Airport the figure was 96%.

In April, MAG welcomed the publication of Sustainable Aviation’s (SA) updated Decarbonisation Roadmap. Formally launched at the Sustainable Skies Summit at Farnborough, the Report set out the progress the UK aviation industry in making in the roll out of low and zero emission flight technologies. The Road-Map also explained how the UK could position itself as a world leader in aviation decarbonisation, but that increased support from the UK Government is needed to ensure this opportunity is not lost.

The Government’s Jet Zero Council, of which MAG is a founding member, also convened for its latest meeting at the Sustainable Skies Summit to discuss the industry’s progress towards net zero by 2050.
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Old 14th May 2023, 12:47
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Catania cancelled

Well, that didn't last long. Looks like FR's route to Catania will be ending at the end of the summer season, having only launched in winter 22. This will also be coinciding with the cessation of all FR routes to/from Catania from late October, apparently owing to a row regarding airport fees.
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Old 14th May 2023, 20:44
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New EK lounge @ STN

So have heard EK will be opening a lounge @ STN, makes perfect sense considering they are now double daily and with their F and J product on the 777, anyone else heard this or have any update on this ?

Could never understand why the no 1 Lounge shut down or why in fact the airport only has just the one mediocre lounge
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Old 15th May 2023, 09:36
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Originally Posted by Paulesx
So have heard EK will be opening a lounge @ STN, makes perfect sense considering they are now double daily and with their F and J product on the 777, anyone else heard this or have any update on this ?

Could never understand why the no 1 Lounge shut down or why in fact the airport only has just the one mediocre lounge
That'll be a big boost for STN when it happens. I'd also agree that the current Escape Lounge pales in comparison to other London airport lounges, and I'd also say that the fact that STN, as the third busiest UK airport only has the one lounge is poor- LGW for example has multiple lounges and has a large LCC presence.

Also, prior to MAG taking over STN, didn't the airport have airline lounges in each of the 3 satellites? I can understand why there would no longer be any in satellite 3, given that this is exclusively FR territory, but I think it is a shame there aren't any in satellites 1 and 2, as there is the space available for them.
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Old 15th May 2023, 12:51
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EK lounge

Have heard this also, will be located in Sat 1 departures in the void space overlooking stands 12 and 13 near whsmiths. Due to the size of the space I have heard it will only be for F pax.
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Old 15th May 2023, 13:49
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Originally Posted by Droidd
Have heard this also, will be located in Sat 1 departures in the void space overlooking stands 12 and 13 near whsmiths. Due to the size of the space I have heard it will only be for F pax.
If you guys need to be kept upto date there are numerous sources of information online.

For example.

MAG announced way back in January on their LinkedIn page that an Emirates lounge was going to be put in place in Satellite 1 at Gate 12.

This topic has also been previously discussed on pprune a few months ago after it was originally announced.

Regarding lounges.

I was only watching a YouTube video the other day with a walk-through of the current premium lounge facility at Stansted Airport.

Premium 🤔 I've seen better facilities and decor in an IKEA restaurant. It looks more like Premier Inn rather than a Premier lounge. I certainly would not pay to use such a bland and boring looking facility. A lounge with more of an actual premium attached to it is what Stansted Airport needs. If the airport is going to attract more of a diverse airline portfolio it needs to have the appropriate lounges.
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Old 15th May 2023, 13:59
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Is there space at STN for any more lounges beyond the Emirates one ? The checkin, security screening, departures, immigration hall and baggage collection areas each seem rather full at their respective peak times. I'm expecting peak summer 2023 to be as busy as 2019. And no, I don't expect the retail area to be sacrificed as it brings in far too much money. Is there perhaps structural strength in the departures area to build lounges on top of the retail units ?
The only other place I can think of, is the quiet seating area under Itsu near gates 90+
Or maybe the plans for a new arrivals terminal need to be dusted off again and a new application made to the council ?

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