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Old 7th Sep 2021, 17:39
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Loganair take over MME from Eastern and connect to ABZ from 27th March 2022, x 6 weekly
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Stands

Guys, as always the answer is in the masterplan. Link below. See pages 36-37. An indication of possible stand layout. Of course the previous master plan had larger stands planned for the big parcel the airport own to the north east, but it seems they now want to waste that land on yet more big haulage sheds with miniscule low skilled employment.

I did wonder at the time why the airport did not include the stands and the northern taxiway link in with the runway extension planning but I assume the airport want to do it in stages. I guess adding planning for big stands to the runway extension would not have been a good idea as the ecomentalists would have used it as proof that the extension is just about bigger aircraft. Of course they used that argument anyway but if true I guess there is some logic in the airport avoiding linking the two.

https://www.southamptonairport.com/m...ble-growth.pdf

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Old 9th Sep 2021, 08:43
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Salzburg

What happened to Stewyb? Lol

BA adding Salzburg from SOU from December to April. Good that they are continuing to add routes.
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More detail here.

https://mediacentre.britishairways.c...ns-this-winter
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 19:01
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I'm not sure it has been reported here, but Cityflyer will be opting to Belfast City this winter? That would account for the Saltsburg originating from Southampton.
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 20:13
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No, BACF won’t be flying from Southampton to Belfast. The aircraft will operate the following pattern:

Friday:

EDI-SOU

Saturday:

SOU-CMF
CMF-SOU
SOU-SZG
SZG-SOU

Sunday:

SOU-CMF
CMF-SOU
SOU-EDI
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 20:14
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Are you saying that BACF will be operating SOU-BHD this winter? I haven't heard anything to suggest that and haven't seen it mentioned on here or anywhere else.
My understanding is that an E190 will be operating EDI-SOU, SOU-CMF-SOU-SZG-SOU, SOU-CMF-SOU-EDI as a weekend's flying from Friday evening to Sunday afternoon.
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 21:48
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No it hasn’t been reported because it’s not happening , think you have been misinformed
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 13:49
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Departures

Anyone know why nearly all departures are from 02 now? Been like that for a few months now when traditionally the majority would be from 20.
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 14:40
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Wind direction, longer TORA, keeping neighbours happy?
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The latter maybe but then they are meant to go against the wind direction. I can’t imagine the wind direction has permanently changed so that 02 sees the bulk of the departures now. I remember reading a while ago that 20 saw about 80% of the annual departures but I would say it has completely flipped the last few months. All very strange.
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You'd be surprised.Sounds like the most likely reason to me.
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 16:50
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No pilot is going to take off with any significant tailwind!
also the TODA for 02 is much greater the 20,so with the wind less then 5 knots or northly 02 gives a few plusses for Pilot's
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 16:56
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Nothing more than the prevailing wind direction favouring use of RWY 02.
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 19:36
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RNAV 02

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I believe that LPV approaches to all UK airports are now stopped directly because of brexit,given Southampton has RNAV to 02,surely this limits the minima on approaches,and it seems VOR approaches are back on the agenda,a retrograde step I fear
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The prevailing wind is still Southwesterly, however the wind for the last few weeks has been mostly East or Northeast hence 02 in use.
As soon as the autumn weather arrives they will be back on 20. Looking at the forecast I think it will be 20 by the weekend.
Bournemouth has been on 08 most of the last month with 26 is in use sometimes, including today.
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The lower approach minima has accordingly gone due to not being able to use LPV, but LNAV/VNAV or LNAV minima should still be applicable albeit it is around 100 FT higher.

The VOR/DME approach is now only a short term option due to the planned withdrawal by NATS of the VOR/DME.
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Eastern updates

Few changes from Eastern.

- Gibraltar to end on 11/10, probably not all that surprising as loads have not been brilliant and most more popular med destinations are open again
- Belfast has increased to 10 weekly, with the second morning flight operating via Cardiff on Mon, Thurs, Fri and Sun
- Southampton to Cardiff is bookable on the above days as well
- Dublin has increased from 4 to 6 weekly (ex. Sat) and is now an afternoon flight
- Manchester has increased from 4 to 6 weekly (ex. Sat) and is now an evening flight
- The above now means that both ATR72's are needed at some times of the day - progress is slow but at least there is some!
- Leeds Bradford has increased from 4 to 9 weekly (ex Sat, 2x Tues-Thurs)

Hopefully they can operate this more useful schedule with less short term cancellations than have been seen over the past few months, as I have seen some very frustrated reviews on social media and indeed here from where people have been caught out.
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 09:06
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Maybe you can confirm but looks like NQY operating on several days during Dec/Jan!?
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 10:42
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Eastern has SOU - NQY scheduled on nine days between 17 Dec and 3 Jan, arising from combination of the usually separate LBA to SOU and LBA to NQY routes, across the Xmas/New Year holiday period.
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