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INV is going all ATR - the Embraer from INV is moving to EDI as a third based a/c.
Suspect the issue is just that Jethros website lists too many ATRs arriving - sure as I can be that there are five to come to replace the last five 340s. There's no change to the 145 fleet size and spending on FMS, ADS-B and a cabin refresh all happening.
Suspect the issue is just that Jethros website lists too many ATRs arriving - sure as I can be that there are five to come to replace the last five 340s. There's no change to the 145 fleet size and spending on FMS, ADS-B and a cabin refresh all happening.
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INV is going all ATR - the Embraer from INV is moving to EDI as a third based a/c.
Suspect the issue is just that Jethros website lists too many ATRs arriving - sure as I can be that there are five to come to replace the last five 340s. There's no change to the 145 fleet size and spending on FMS, ADS-B and a cabin refresh all happening.
Suspect the issue is just that Jethros website lists too many ATRs arriving - sure as I can be that there are five to come to replace the last five 340s. There's no change to the 145 fleet size and spending on FMS, ADS-B and a cabin refresh all happening.
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Be interesting to see what they do with GLA/EDI to SOU long term. Obviously different times but BE were flying 80 seaters the same frequency instead of the 50 seat ERJs. Not sure whether the AR72 is quick enough to be suitable for those routes and the ERJ is very cramp and means high ticket prices. I suppose a small fleet of ERJ 170/175s would mean another sub-fleet.
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Be interesting to see what they do with GLA/EDI to SOU long term. Obviously different times but BE were flying 80 seaters the same frequency instead of the 50 seat ERJs. Not sure whether the AR72 is quick enough to be suitable for those routes and the ERJ is very cramp and means high ticket prices. I suppose a small fleet of ERJ 170/175s would mean another sub-fleet.
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Flybe might have been using 80 seat aircraft but they were rarely full. Use the service to GLA regularily and the LM fights are busy on the E145 so they obviously have the right number of seats available.Yes more expensive but the cheap fares are one of the reasons why FLYBE are no longer here. The AT72 seems to manage to BHD with Emerald ok so cant see why it wouldnt to GLA/EDI.
It was Loganair that started the routes in the first place, they were gifted to flybe in the whole merger and sale fiasco involving BA Connect. the ATR is going to be relatively slower but I don't see them buying Q400s so it is what it is once the ERjs go.
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Flew on the 145 recently and compared to the BA A320 on which I did the journey south, it was cheaper and far better. If I had to describe anything as cramped and expensive, it would be the A320 - and both were nearly full. Give me the 145 any day!!
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Must have been prior to 2003 then as there's no sign of them after that date until recently.
I suppose it all depends how much of a puritanical historian you are ! Glasgow - Southampton was initially flown daily by a BUA 1-11-200 in between Gatwick sorties for many years which continued through into BCal until the early 80s.
There was a BA HS748 service which was a Glasgow-Manchester-Birmingham-Southampton in the late 80s, which was short lived.
After that, Loganair was the first nonstop service since the BCal which I recall started in 1991 or 1992, designed to serve the IBM corporate business. It was initially a 2x daily J31 and went to a 4x daily J31 before Edinburgh was also added and J41s arrived.
After that came the BRAL / BA Connect thing with the 145s and then Flybe started up in competition on the Southampton routes about 1997 with 146s. Flybe then were given BA Connect with the dowry to take it off BA’s hands, competition was eliminated and the Q400s came along.
Flybe went bust, Loganair came back with the 145s, Flybe threatened to come back again but pulled those plans and went bankrupt shortly afterwards.
If I’ve missed anything, please say so but I think that’s a potted history of 50 years of Glasgow-Southampton services!
There was a BA HS748 service which was a Glasgow-Manchester-Birmingham-Southampton in the late 80s, which was short lived.
After that, Loganair was the first nonstop service since the BCal which I recall started in 1991 or 1992, designed to serve the IBM corporate business. It was initially a 2x daily J31 and went to a 4x daily J31 before Edinburgh was also added and J41s arrived.
After that came the BRAL / BA Connect thing with the 145s and then Flybe started up in competition on the Southampton routes about 1997 with 146s. Flybe then were given BA Connect with the dowry to take it off BA’s hands, competition was eliminated and the Q400s came along.
Flybe went bust, Loganair came back with the 145s, Flybe threatened to come back again but pulled those plans and went bankrupt shortly afterwards.
If I’ve missed anything, please say so but I think that’s a potted history of 50 years of Glasgow-Southampton services!
I don't remember flybe going against BA on GLA-SOU, they were however competing on GLA-BHX with the 146 from 1997. I think flybe inherited GLA-SOU in the BA sale? I thought Loganair lauched the GLA-SOU route in 1991, never knew about BUA! You live and learn.
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I don't remember flybe going against BA on GLA-SOU, they were however competing on GLA-BHX with the 146 from 1997. I think flybe inherited GLA-SOU in the BA sale? I thought Loganair lauched the GLA-SOU route in 1991, never knew about BUA! You live and learn.
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I definately remember Flybe competing with BA on the GLA- SOU route as it was sometimes cheaper to go one way with BA and back with Flybe, dont ever remember it being a 146 though. Im sure it was the Dash then later the E195. The Loganair service was taken over by Manx when Airlines of Britain decided they would operate all of Loganairs services outwith Scotland. This then became BACON.
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Loganair offer a great service but EZY will jump on GLA or EDI once SOU runway extension is complete, 3/4 weekly in competition with RYR BOH
Last edited by SKOJB; 11th Mar 2023 at 19:12.