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Old 4th Feb 2024, 19:52
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So pabely agrees then that all the noise coming out of Luton Rising regarding 1000’s of new jobs is all BS.
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This is nothing to do with that, airports all round the world are rolling out this Technology.
One of the biggest pinch points in security is the passenger forgetting the 100ml rule.
This helps to remove that from the equation.
I suppose it is Luton Risings fault that Self Chekin came about, baggage being sorted by bar code and a flight engineer no longer being needed in the cockpit!
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Old 4th Feb 2024, 21:06
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40 years ago, supermarkets employed huge numbers of people to put price stickers on items on the shelves, and then even more people to sit by a conveyor belt and read the price on those stickers. The cost of employing these people was factored into the price that supermarkets charged - i.e. ultimately the shopper paid for them. The jobs were poorly paid. Then people decided it would be so much cheaper, faster and more reliable if barcodes were used instead.
I don't think many people have a great desire for supermarkets to pay human beings to do those (mind-numbingly-dull) jobs again.
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Yes I get all that but the point is that Luton Rising is pretending that a huge amount of jobs are going to be provided when in fact that won’t be the case.
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MAG must be lying as well then with their extra 5000 jobs for their current expansions phase.
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Are we talking about jobs on-site at the airport or are we talking about jobs in the area because of good transport links to other cities and countries ?

Yes, having a busy international airport really does boost non-aviation-related economic activity - just see what bad roads and no rail or coach station does for a town's future
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Old 5th Feb 2024, 05:50
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
Are we talking about jobs on-site at the airport or are we talking about jobs in the area because of good transport links to other cities and countries ?
I have two points to make:

Luton is not a strategic airport. Its prime function is as a holiday airport offering cheap holidays. This is reflected in the types of airlines that operate services into it being low cost airlines offering no onward connections. If Luton is allowed to expand do people here think for one minute that Heathrow airlines will be queuing up to offer overflow services from Luton?

MAG must be lying as well then with their extra 5000 jobs for their current expansions phase.
They all lie and are very selective with the truth by bringing out job surveys that they have often paid for.

This reminds me of Tesco. Everyday we see adverts or press releases about the latest price drops or price cuts. We never hear them shouting about the thousand of price rises.

No mention that the airport and its partners actually want to cut as many jobs as possible and an expanded airport will increase in-work poverty

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ement-28427447.

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Old 5th Feb 2024, 08:55
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Wizzair dropping Olzstyn in NE Poland from their network (to both Luton and Dortmund) from the end of March 2024. As with Lodz, Ryanair to STN will remain the sole link to London
https://www.pasazer.com/news/464798/...,olsztyna.html
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Old 5th Feb 2024, 12:47
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
Wizzair dropping Olzstyn in NE Poland from their network (to both Luton and Dortmund) from the end of March 2024. As with Lodz, Ryanair to STN will remain the sole link to London
https://www.pasazer.com/news/464798/...,olsztyna.html
Perhaps some incentive expired.
Ryanair do it enough.
Talking about Ryanair, they are finding Dublin tough going, firstly due to increasing charges by the airport and the cost of living around Dublin hitting recruitment targets.
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Old 6th Feb 2024, 17:51
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European Football Championship

For Football fans, Wizzair UK are running some charters for the first 3 England matches in Germany.
London Luton Dortmund Airport

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Dortmund Airport London Luton

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London Luton Frankfurt

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Frankfurt London Luton

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London Luton Cologne

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Cologne London Luton

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As two of the games are against East European teams, I suspect not all on board will be supporters of England!
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Old 7th Feb 2024, 11:18
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Did Wizzair fly Luton - Hurghada during summer 2023 ? It looks like they won't in summer 2024, but I'm not sure if it's a winter-only or year-round route
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/240207-w6w4ns24cxld
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Can't remember but Egypt is very hot in Summer, wouldn't consider it a destination between end of April & August.
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Easyjet will sell you a ticket from Luton to Hurghada in on 28 July 2024 for 403 one way, when it typically gets to over 37 C each day. Some people in the UK really do like it hot. Were Wizzair flying Luton - Hurghada in summer 2023 as well ?
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The S22 ACL Report doesn't show it as a new route vs S21, I think it started W21 so that would imply a Winter only route.
I have done Sharm many times in Winter and the pool guys always said you English are mad to come here in July or August when it is too hot for the locals. You sunbathe from 7am until 10am, go back to air-con rooms and not seen again until 3pm.

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The DCO closes today with a new batch of documents submitted to the examining authority including the financial accounts for the year ending March 31st 2023. This had to be asked for as LRT wanted to keep them away from the inspectorates eyes.

So the headline figure for 2022/23 is a loss of 207.8m compared with a loss of 232.8m for the previous year. Oh it gets better regarding the Dart with a further impairment of 75.6m on top of the 2020/21 impairment of 184.7m giving an unrecoverable debt of 260m. Not bad for a project that was meant to have cost 225m but ended up at 313m. This means that almost the entire cost of building the Dart is unrecoverable when allowing for projected future income. When previously asked to produce the business case for this financial disaster LRT refused. Not to worry, the Town Hall has deep pockets even though the residents don’t.

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70m pax

https://www.travelandtourworld.com/n...gers-at-luton/

I wonder how many pax Easyjet have had over the years?
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environmentally conscious airline on a global scale
What a load of BS written for all the suckers out there who will believe anything.
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Old 14th Feb 2024, 13:55
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Originally Posted by pabely
https://www.travelandtourworld.com/n...gers-at-luton/

I wonder how many pax Easyjet have had over the years?
Wizz Air started at Luton in May 2004 with a flight from Katowice. Luton is, I think, their largest destination/base.
Easy Jet started in 1995, and have a fleet of around 25 based at Luton. so I wouldn't be surprised of they've carried 100 million or more.
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Not bad for a project that was meant to have cost 225m but ended up at 313m.
The latest accounts from LRT states that to March 2023 the DART construction cost is a whopping 360m with only 100m recoverable over 40 years. This is something the LRT will want to keep quiet while crowing about its 2 millionth passenger.
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Have you got comparative costs of how much the old busses cost? Then utilisation pax per day?
Finally the customer experience on making Luton a more desirable airport and spending at the airport because you don't have to queue in the rain for a horrible journey to the airport and say never again?
It was well documented that TUI lost interest in Luton because of negative feedback outside their control.
Putting the Car Park fire aside, the whole Airport experience was shaping up well.
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