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Old 19th Nov 2023, 21:55
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Originally Posted by 1889LS
A few rumours that G-VYGK may join GL and GM next year.
Due to delays with the A330neo order?
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Old 19th Nov 2023, 23:06
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Originally Posted by AircraftOperations
Due to delays with the A330neo order?
Where is this confirmed or even public knowledge? What A330NEO order?

I believe that could well be the case that GK maybe joining GL/GM. Whether it's a replacement for the A330-300 they had this year or Jet2 are going to go to a 4th subleased A330 who knows. One would expect the picture to become a little clearer after Christmas rather than before.
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Old 20th Nov 2023, 08:11
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Originally Posted by 1889LS
A few rumours that G-VYGK may join GL and GM next year.
Looking at the seat maps. On a Monday there are 45 rows, and 2-4-2 config, for DLM, TFS and ACE flights. 45 rows is Air tanker which makes this rumour a little more believable.
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Old 20th Nov 2023, 18:14
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Originally Posted by 1889LS
A few rumours that G-VYGK may join GL and GM next year.
It makes complete sense to be fair. Air Tanker have been very reliable for Jet2 and you can imagine they’ve got a pretty good relationship.

GK has, at times, been used by TUI so causes them issues which will help Jet2 too.

You could imagine they may get a decent discount on their lease too if the relationship is good too.
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Old 20th Nov 2023, 19:45
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Originally Posted by 1889LS
A few rumours that G-VYGK may join GL and GM next year.
Fairly sure that 3 Air Tanker A330 were planned for 2020.
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Old 20th Nov 2023, 20:46
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It makes complete sense. Jet2 get a third aircraft from a lessor that has provided near flawless reliability and fantastic service and has given Jet2 the full ability to make the product their own, with full cabin refurb and crew. AirTanker gets another aircraft making money full time for a trustworthy company, rather than it sitting around in between adhoc charters for other clients.
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Old 20th Nov 2023, 21:56
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True. But World2Fly did a decent job for them as well. Good reliability, Jet2 product in the cabin.
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Old 20th Nov 2023, 22:04
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Is there any risk to Jet2 that Air Tanker could ever recall an airframe off the lease for reasons of national importance (over & above a more traditional lessor airline)? Or are these aircraft completely removed from such possible activities?
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Old 21st Nov 2023, 11:15
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Originally Posted by UnderASouthernSky
Is there any risk to Jet2 that Air Tanker could ever recall an airframe off the lease for reasons of national importance (over & above a more traditional lessor airline)? Or are these aircraft completely removed from such possible activities?
These aircraft are "De-Kitted" all RAF stuff is removed plus Air Tanker has a big fleet, so shouldn't really be a need to recall these 3 frames. However should the need arise, I suppose J2 would just have to suck it up and claim compo.
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Old 21st Nov 2023, 16:37
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My understanding is that Air Tanker contracts do contain a recall clause if there is a major issue requiring the aircraft to be recalled for Government use. I’m not sure how exactly that is defined, but generally if we are engaged in a war somewhere, commercial air travel demand drops and so an ability to cut capacity is a welcome “out”.

There is also an issue brewing with no UK Government permission for wet leasing for next year as yet. That’s why you have Ascend, Fly4 setting up in the UK as ACMI providers and presumably why Air Tanker is a better bet than a World2Fly aircraft for Jet2. It gives certainty right now where none is available through other avenues.
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Old 21st Nov 2023, 17:42
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Originally Posted by Flightrider
There is also an issue brewing with no UK Government permission for wet leasing for next year as yet. That’s why you have Ascend, Fly4 setting up in the UK as ACMI providers and presumably why Air Tanker is a better bet than a World2Fly aircraft for Jet2. It gives certainty right now where none is available through other avenues.
Could that be the reason so many second hand B737-800 are being acquired, to replace the five wet leased aircraft from Summer 23?
Or were all the second hand B737-800's planned for further expansion?
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Old 21st Nov 2023, 18:34
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Originally Posted by garry8g
Could that be the reason so many second hand B737-800 are being acquired, to replace the five wet leased aircraft from Summer 23?
Or were all the second hand B737-800's planned for further expansion?
I'd have thought for expansion. 4 for LPL plus extras announced for EDI and others so far leaves a gap from this year's damp leased frames.
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Old 21st Nov 2023, 21:15
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Originally Posted by Kevgti
I'd have thought for expansion. 4 for LPL plus extras announced for EDI and others so far leaves a gap from this year's damp leased frames.
I thought Edinburgh was now getting some A321neos, rather than extra B737-800's?
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Old 22nd Nov 2023, 06:27
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Originally Posted by garry8g
I thought Edinburgh was now getting some A321neos, rather than extra B737-800's?
​​​​​​Two A321neo for Summer 25. One additional plane for 2024 which is presumably a 738.
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Old 23rd Nov 2023, 16:48
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12 More a320neo options firmed up. Taking total airbus order to 110 for now. Still 36 options left across both types.
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Old 24th Nov 2023, 15:50
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Originally Posted by Kevgti
​​​​​​Two A321neo for Summer 25. One additional plane for 2024 which is presumably a 738.
3 x A321neos to be based for S25 confirmed in a press release
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Old 10th Dec 2023, 19:47
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G-DRTY MAN-PFO returning to MQN

G-DRTY (running EXS43A) did a180 near Nuremberg and returned to MAN, landing 20.45.
Anyone know why?
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Old 10th Dec 2023, 20:32
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Originally Posted by Flying Hi
G-DRTY (running EXS43A) did a180 near Nuremberg and returned to MAN, landing 20.45.
Anyone know why?
Pure guess but seeing it went all the way back to MAN I'd assume it was a urgent but not critical tech issue.
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Old 12th Dec 2023, 20:03
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Originally Posted by Flying Hi
G-DRTY (running EXS43A) did a180 near Nuremberg and returned to MAN, landing 20.45.
Anyone know why?
It was stood down from a rescue flight.
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Old 12th Dec 2023, 20:19
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It was stood down from a rescue flight.
Thank you for the info, ATNE
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