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Old 18th Feb 2023, 15:55
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Originally Posted by anthbower1234
Pulled out in Feb 2011 due to the political unrest. Such a pain they havnt gone back to SSH as can only use TUI from EMA and would much rather have the Jet2 product than the basic options on board with TUI.
Lots of other ways to get to SSH, although TUI with RUI do block book the best hotels I know alot who go via Istanbul and book the hotel direct. If I go with TUI it is only a means to get from A to B, I hardly interact with local reps at all and book my own local transfer at a fraction of the cost. The holiday for me is the Hotel & resort. Not the airline but I do use full board only hotels now and no longer travel with kids. Not as if Egypt is great for kids anyhow. It is far too hot in summer.
The last time we took kids I remember the local pool guys/entertainment team saying in June- August they did nothing between 11-3 as everyone was back in room avoiding sun!
This probably puts off Jet2 holidays.
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 17:58
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………. and in Sharm or Hurghada you get to make friends with the friendly Russian family on the next sunbed - no thanks!
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 18:12
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Originally Posted by Cuillin Hills
………. and in Sharm or Hurghada you get to make friends with the friendly Russian family on the next sunbed - no thanks!
Care to explain more?
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 18:21
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There are a large number of Russians in areas around Antalya, Sharm and Hurghada - this is noticeable by both the visual advertising targetted at tourists, and also the language you hear spoken in tourist areas. I have not noticed any particular hostility between British and Russian tourists in these places in the last 12 months.
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 19:07
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Originally Posted by Cuillin Hills
………. and in Sharm or Hurghada you get to make friends with the friendly Russian family on the next sunbed - no thanks!
There humans just like the rest of us. If you got to know then you’d probably learn a little and understand that most are nice. I mean unless you listen to the mafia media.

Personally having been to Egypt/Sharm the Egyptians love British. There was a number of Russians about but you ignore them… if that’s your thing. I’d go there for winter sun over canaries any day of the week.

There’s never been hostility between Russians and English. If you don’t want to go because of Russian presence don’t … but plenty of people will, and there’s certainly a gap in the market for Jet2/holidays.
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 19:09
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
There are a large number of Russians in areas around Antalya, Sharm and Hurghada - this is noticeable by both the visual advertising targetted at tourists, and also the language you hear spoken in tourist areas. I have not noticed any particular hostility between British and Russian tourists in these places in the last 12 months.
And why should there be !!? It seems someone above is well and truly indoctrinated by the mainstream... Probably still believes the Russians blew up the Nord Stream pipeline when the warmongering Americans have even admitted it.
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 19:12
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Originally Posted by LBAflyer22
There humans just like the rest of us. If you got to know then you’d probably learn a little and understand that most are nice. I mean unless you listen to the mafia media
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There’s never been hostility between Russians and English.
Nail on the head!

I think its incredibly offensive and damn right sad at what it seems they were insinuating. Maybe take a few minutes away from your TV screen Cuillin Hills !
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 20:06
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Originally Posted by Cuillin Hills
………. and in Sharm or Hurghada you get to make friends with the friendly Russian family on the next sunbed - no thanks!
With 22 flights into IST tomorrow and 5 into SSH from Russian airports, I know where you are more likely to bump into such friends. Oh by the way, Jet2 have a sizable program to Turkey, enjoy!
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 21:02
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I would have to disagree with your comments re Russian on leave. I have done business in the past in Russia and bumped into them around the planet on holiday, and while away on business, and yes there are a few nice ones out of those encounters, but unfortunately they were the exceptions. They are up there with Nigerians as being some of the most bigoted raciest people I ever had the misfortune to interact with. So no I would not to go somewhere where they are in large numbers. They are not well liked in Egypt, Thailand, either by locals.

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Old 19th Feb 2023, 06:20
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly
And why should there be !!? It seems someone above is well and truly indoctrinated by the mainstream... Probably still believes the Russians blew up the Nord Stream pipeline when the warmongering Americans have even admitted it.
You might want to look up who is invading Ukraine. Hint it isn’t the Americans…
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Old 19th Feb 2023, 06:46
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Does anybody really think it has any impact on Jet2's decision to operate there or not? Can we move on to another destination Jet2 don't fly to and discuss why they should/shouldn't?
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Old 19th Feb 2023, 06:55
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La Palma SPC ? In canary isles
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Old 19th Feb 2023, 07:30
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Originally Posted by BA318
You might want to look up who is invading Ukraine. Hint it isn’t the Americans…
Perfect response to ignore the main issue by an indoctrinate. You keep watching that TV like a good little citizen... and by god, if you come in to contact with a Russian, be sure to run like the wind because they are all clearly evil in your mind.
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Old 19th Feb 2023, 07:45
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It is like most countries there are nice and horrible people its upto to you who you talk to and have dealings with just be careful I watch the news and a lot of other stuff from many countries which
I believe is upto your own choice but I know a few Russians and Ukrainians but both seem to say the same get Putin out and then they can get back to life as usual
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Old 19th Feb 2023, 07:51
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Does anybody really think it has any impact on Jet2's decision to operate there or not? Can we move on to another destination Jet2 don't fly to and discuss why they should/shouldn't?
Back to the discussion on Cape Verde as a future destination... I am really unsure what the big fuss about crew nightstopping overseas would be. I know it adds cost and complexity, but Jet2s cost basis is no longer just that of running a low cost airline model. Their main business is now the inclusive tour market and their inhouse Jet2Holidays operation. If they know that theres demand and its worth the costs, they will absolute commit to the market. The main reason right now will be though, (as someone else has well pointed out) will be the lack of room capacity. The majority of room capacity really is held by the TUI group. There are many new hotels and apartments being built there right now though. So over the next couple of years this may help change the dynamics a little more. Additionally, if demand begins to drop over the current "recession", then it will either make the likes of TUI drop capacity on block booking hotel rooms, thus lowering prices for a competitors to buy into and hopefully to potentially step in. This has historically happened in other markets for Jet2... a case of getting in just at the right time.

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Old 19th Feb 2023, 09:31
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I know it adds cost and complexity, but Jet2s cost basis is no longer just that of running a low cost airline model.
The airline component still very much is. For the likes of Thomas Cook, even TUI to some extent the airline has always just been a means of supplying the holiday business really. Similar in a way to how short-haul feeds the higher yielding long-haul for full service carriers.

In Jet2's case, despite some of the comments above, I don't agree even now that's the case. They still have a very economical, cost conscious and reputable airline operation. Yes it's more tailored to the package holiday clientele, but the airline itself is still very much a focus of the whole product.
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Old 19th Feb 2023, 13:19
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly
Back to the discussion on Cape Verde as a future destination... I am really unsure what the big fuss about crew nightstopping overseas would be. I know it adds cost and complexity, but Jet2s cost basis is no longer just that of running a low cost airline model.
TBF I'm really unsure why there's such a push by some on here for Jet2 to go to Cape Verde in the first place. In the end it's going to come down to whether they can make money more easily by either going to other places or increasing frequencies to existing destinations rather than changing their mode of operation just to go to one destination with increased complexity.
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Old 19th Feb 2023, 14:28
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Will Jet 2 return to the successful series of New York flights they used to operate from various airports pre pandemic and which aircraft would they use?
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Old 19th Feb 2023, 17:37
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I think Cape Verde is perhaps a step too far. I have been there to fish a couple of times with TAP, but it really is otherwise a drop and flop place with little else apart from climate. The fishing is great at certain times of the year but I am not sure if I were Jet 2 .

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Old 19th Feb 2023, 20:49
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Expansion will come from opening new bases and linking that to their existing destinations? If slots become available with the new/old Gatwick runway, I would expect Jet2 would look to make a base there.
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