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Old 10th Jul 2023, 16:06
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It is probably because Gatwick is their biggest base with multiple frequencies to many destinations which make same day rebooking easier to achieve.
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Old 10th Jul 2023, 16:12
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Old 10th Jul 2023, 17:41
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A spokesperson for EasyJet said the whole airline industry was seeing "challenging conditions this summer" as the
closure of Ukrainian airspace due to Russia's war caused congestion in the skies and disrupted flights.

Um ... almost all carriers gave up transiting Ukrainian airspace after the shootdown of Malaysian 17.

And that happened in 2014 !!!
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Old 10th Jul 2023, 17:42
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A spokesperson for EasyJet said the whole airline industry was seeing "challenging conditions this summer" as the
closure of Ukrainian airspace due to Russia's war caused congestion in the skies and disrupted flights.

Um ... almost all carriers gave up transiting Ukrainian airspace after the shootdown of Malaysian 17.

And that happened in 2014 !!!

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Old 10th Jul 2023, 18:05
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Originally Posted by WHBM
Um ... almost all carriers gave up transiting Ukrainian airspace after the shootdown of Malaysian 17.

And that happened in 2014 !!!
That sounds like a shorthand explanation by the Easyjet spokesperson that really left the wrong impression.

I suspect the problem now is that post Feb last year Russian and some other associated airspace also effectively closed.

That's means European carriers have lost the Russian/Belarus > option for their Longhaul Flights and has loaded up the skies over the likes of Romania and Turkey..as one glance at your favourite tracking app will quickly show.

IMHO I'd say that's almost bound to be an increase in delays due to flow control.

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Old 10th Jul 2023, 18:08
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When you consider they continually can't get the first wave of flights out of Gatwick every morning. The aircraft have been there overnight. They're clearly clutching at straws to make excuses.

Ukraine/ Russia will be a factor. But no excuse for the continual issues with the first sector at Gatwick that they're having
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Old 10th Jul 2023, 20:39
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When you consider they continually can't get the first wave of flights out of Gatwick every morning. The aircraft have been there overnight. They're clearly clutching at straws to make excuses.

Ukraine/ Russia will be a factor. But no excuse for the continual issues with the first sector at Gatwick that they're having
Yes the planes may be there overnight but ATC restrictions and congestion will delay them or have cancelled flights. Maybe the facts do not fit your agenda though.
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Old 10th Jul 2023, 20:43
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Originally Posted by vectisman
Yes the planes may be there overnight but ATC restrictions and congestion will delay them or have cancelled flights. Maybe the facts do not fit your agenda though.
I've no agenda against easyJet. I'm a flight club member and in our house there's 4 easyJet plus members.

But they're delaying or cancelling flights to IOM in the first wave.

They don't touch Europe atc.
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Old 10th Jul 2023, 20:59
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Cancelling these flights will definitely help out the crewing issue they've got.
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Old 10th Jul 2023, 21:16
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[QUOTE][It seems to me that easyjet have looked at a developing situation and taking action before it becomes a crisis./QUOTE]

Judging by the recent rate of cancellations at Gatwick, I think it became a crisis some weeks ago. The only thing which seems to have changed is the level of media attention to it.
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Old 11th Jul 2023, 01:46
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Are the delays and cancellations just with uk based aircraft, out of Gatwick? flying to FARO from SEN on EU based aircraft in September
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Old 11th Jul 2023, 06:23
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Cancellations are in the main from Gatwick only (it seems that Gatwick can’t cope when a significant number of flights are delayed). Looking at delays from other airports - can be an hour or two, but they do seem to keep operating.
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Old 15th Jul 2023, 21:15
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Booked to go Luton to Venice in September ...got the email that flights cancelled and they are offering stupid o'clock from Gatwick instead. Before accenting I find they are flying 3 rotations on that day And I changed the booking to the mid day flight. That gets us to Venice reasonable o'clock in the afternoon....so far it's a winner...
just checked and none of the flights that day have been cancelled...yet...so here's hoping😊
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 23:10
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Has anyone managed to use the inflight Wi-Fi service that is apparently now live onboard all aircraft? Both of my recent flights it hasn’t been live so I’m suspecting it’s something the crew need to ‘turn on’ and they’ve probably not been briefed on it?
(I’m aware its not full Wi-Fi but I wanted to try out the Flight Tracker)
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 23:12
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The Flight Tracker worked... but Google Maps with GPS enabled on an Android phone pressed to the window for 30 seconds (yes, with flight mode turned on) gave a far better result at 38,000 feet

If an airline (not just Easyjet) on non-oceanic routes wants to provide a really good flight tracker, I think the answer would be to allow Internet access via satellite to a few FlightRadar24 URLs very specific to the flight instead of trying to use some second rate solution that is no better that the FlightMap that has been shown on aircraft screens since the 1990s

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Old 21st Jul 2023, 23:20
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Originally Posted by sergy2k
Has anyone managed to use the inflight Wi-Fi service that is apparently now live onboard all aircraft? Both of my recent flights it hasnít been live so Iím suspecting itís something the crew need to Ďturn oní and theyíve probably not been briefed on it?
(Iím aware its not full Wi-Fi but I wanted to try out the Flight Tracker)
You're really not missing much
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Old 22nd Jul 2023, 00:07
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Yeah so I managed to get location working on my iPhone and Google Maps but wanted to try it on my iPad. Maybe next time, and yes, I wasn’t expecting anything to rival Netflix!
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Old 22nd Jul 2023, 08:11
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Itís been removed from all aircraft to be upgraded to be more accurate and to include more options



Originally Posted by sergy2k
Has anyone managed to use the inflight Wi-Fi service that is apparently now live onboard all aircraft? Both of my recent flights it hasnít been live so Iím suspecting itís something the crew need to Ďturn oní and theyíve probably not been briefed on it?
(Iím aware its not full Wi-Fi but I wanted to try out the Flight Tracker)
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Old 22nd Jul 2023, 17:44
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Originally Posted by sergy2k
Has anyone managed to use the inflight Wi-Fi service that is apparently now live onboard all aircraft? Both of my recent flights it hasnít been live so Iím suspecting itís something the crew need to Ďturn oní and theyíve probably not been briefed on it?
(Iím aware its not full Wi-Fi but I wanted to try out the Flight Tracker)
Theyíve all been removed to improve the service as it was a bit hit and miss. When working it was good, but the units had reliability issues so theyíve gone back to the manufacturer to be resolved rather than plodding on with a poor service.
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Old 26th Jul 2023, 12:20
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Easyjet seem to be consistently blaming ATC for delays of over 3 hours, stating this is extraordinary and beyond their control - ie they don't want to pay for EU261. I'm aware Ryanair don't seem to be affected which seems strange as ATC tend not to show strong favouritism to a single airline. I suspect Easyjet are rather more to blame than they would like to admit.

Is the ATC excuse being upheld, or have people managed to push hard enough that Easyjet back down or the courts overturn this excuse ?
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