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[Albert Hall]

Brave, considering RYR chased them out of ORK and SNN with extreme prejudice last time they served Ireland. RYR did the same to Wizz also.

I'd describe it as stupid rather than brave, to be honest. The problem is that everyone who was at easyJet last time they went onto Ryanair's home turf is no longer with the company, and so the trigger for someone to say "look, this is a really bad idea - remember what happened last time?" simply doesn't arise. It will provoke a disproportionate reaction whatever the route is (my guess is that it's LIS-DUB as easyJet keep trying to find ways of using their Lisbon slot horde) and it really is a crazy thing to do. The more you see of easyJet's network management, the more obvious it becomes as to why the airline is under-performing so badly.

[EZYPZY]

But, even if the people who were at EZY the last time they ventured in to ROI territory are no longer there now, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out FR will literally annihilate EZY on any route out of DUB that they compete directly on. I’ll give the bean counters in H89 credit and suggest it’ll be a route that faces no direct competition from FR, until they prove otherwise.

[Albert Hall]

I think you've hit the nail on the head - even if it is a route on which they have no direct competition from Ryanair, their arrival in Dublin will prompt that to change very quickly indeed.

[Rutan16]

Originally Posted by Albert Hall

I think you've hit the nail on the head - even if it is a route on which they have no direct competition from Ryanair, their arrival in Dublin will prompt that to change very quickly indeed.

Just my deux cent - Ski season Grenoble

[dirk85]

My guess is AMS, CDG, ORY or GVA.

[R T Jones]

If they do start into DUB, it’ll be from an existing EU base that faces no direct competition. FR do DUB/AMS so I’d rule that out, CDG would be my bet. GVA I’d expect the slots to be allocated to EZS and not EJU. Still not sure it’s the smartest thing to do, poking the beast and all that.

[cavokblues]

If it's CDG then we all know FR will just dump the market with €9.99 flights to Beauvais until EZY retreat.

[Albert Hall]

The slots are 2x weekly Wed and Sat. Whatever it is, it’s not a big operation - which makes you wonder all the more why they are bothering. EasyJet’s strategy is to be #1 or #2 in the markets it serves, and they are realistically never going to achieve that in Dublin!

[Rutan16]

Originally Posted by Albert Hall

The slots are 2x weekly Wed and Sat. Whatever it is, it’s not a big operation - which makes you wonder all the more why they are bothering. EasyJet’s strategy is to be #1 or #2 in the markets it serves, and they are realistically never going to achieve that in Dublin!

Fits perfectly with Grenoble then

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by Albert Hall

The slots are 2x weekly Wed and Sat. Whatever it is, it’s not a big operation - which makes you wonder all the more why they are bothering. EasyJet’s strategy is to be #1 or #2 in the markets it serves, and they are realistically never going to achieve that in Dublin!

Are they doing a Jet2 and serving the holidays arm rather than competing with LCC's?

[Albert Hall]

I doubt it - they aren't licensed as a tour operator in ROI and have said that their next target market is Switzerland to get licensed and start selling easyJet Holidays.

[R T Jones]

Could be a W pattern if only twice a week.

[1sky]

The one thing about GVA is that Ryanair would really struggle to get useful slots during winter weekends.

[EI-BUD]

In my view it can only be GVA or LYS. At such low frequency they'd be the only choices. Distinct possibility that there could be a tour operator in Ireland in the fold making this low risk. In this case any response from Ryanair would be disproportionate to the threat posed by easyJet.

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Is route planning centralised for all three AOCs or do some do better than others?

[Rutan16]

Originally Posted by Albert Hall

I doubt it - they aren't licensed as a tour operator in ROI and have said that their next target market is Switzerland to get licensed and start selling easyJet Holidays.

And again points to Grenoble in France - Near enough to Alps and Annecy . already an Easy winter port within the EU.

[natmci]

Originally Posted by Rutan16

And again points to Grenoble in France - Near enough to Alps and Annecy . already an Easy winter port within the EU.

easyJet only flies to GNB from the UK and all flights are operated by easyJet UK G- reg AC, which can't fly EU-EU, there is no EZY base there. No EZY services to there are timed for operating a W-pattern either, plus no Wednesday services which is when the slots are (in addition to Sat). Slots are allocated for the whole season, unlikely for GNB given that all other EZY routes to GNB begin in December. There's also competition from FR on the route. I'd be pretty confident in ruling GNB out.

[easyflyer83]

Originally Posted by Albert Hall

The slots are 2x weekly Wed and Sat. Whatever it is, it’s not a big operation - which makes you wonder all the more why they are bothering. EasyJet’s strategy is to be #1 or #2 in the markets it serves, and they are realistically never going to achieve that in Dublin!

Tbf, that strategy is linked more to its bases than individual markets.

[Sober Lark]

Those slots at DUB are for their 'Fear of flying' experience flights.

[Albert Hall]

They very clearly are no such thing. There is a Wednesday arrival at 1120 as EJU1447 and departure at 1200 as EJU1448, and a Saturday arrival at 0855 and departure at 0935 under the same flight numbers. That's not a "fear of flying" circuit which are ad-hoc in nature anyway.