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Old 9th Feb 2023, 08:23
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London - Derry has been mentioned, which is a PSO route.

The charges are only too expensive if there are insufficient people to pay a fare which covers them and allows the airline to make a profit. I expect that is the real issue
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So it would seem that there was not enough revenue from the MME flights to sustain the route. The frequency of trains from Darlington have won over passengers who used to fly to London, probably happened at LBA as well.
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Was it not the mayor who tried to blame LHR for the demise of the route rather than Loganair?
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The route was growing, a 6am departure would have been even fuller, the route stopped because the subsidies stopped and airlines don't have the patience to nurture routes long term

Great news about the Ryanair frequency increases!
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Originally Posted by Cautious Optimist
The route was growing, a 6am departure would have been even fuller, the route stopped because the subsidies stopped and airlines don't have the patience to nurture routes long term

Great news about the Ryanair frequency increases!
Or airlines don't have the money to support loss making routes long term?

What are the Ryanair increases?
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Old 9th Feb 2023, 15:10
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The Ryanair "increases" are a bit of a Ryanair smokescreen

They say 14 weekly flights (4x PMI, 4x FAO, 4x ALC, 2x CFU) but they are counting both ways. It is the same number as last year.
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Originally Posted by tigertanaka
The Ryanair "increases" are a bit of a Ryanair smokescreen

They say 14 weekly flights (4x PMI, 4x FAO, 4x ALC, 2x CFU) but they are counting both ways. It is the same number as last year.
That's what I was thinking too. The Ryanair website only shows 7 weekly departures, so unless their website has not updated yet, this looks like media spin.
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Old 9th Feb 2023, 15:14
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https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...firms-26197436

Though this article says "four flights a week to and from Alicante" Certainly two ways to interpret that, so let's see.

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‘To and from’ being the giveaway!
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Old 9th Feb 2023, 15:23
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Interesting bit:
Ryanair has announced a busy schedule of flights from Teesside this summer.

The low-cost airline is laying on 14 weekly flights to and from Teesside International Airport, for holidaymakers seeking a bit of summer sun. Routes to destinations across Europe for 2023 include Spain's Costa Blanca, Corfu, Portugal and Majorca. From late March, there will be four Ryanair flights a week to and from Alicante, Faro and Palma and twice-weekly flights to and from Corfu.
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Old 9th Feb 2023, 16:49
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Should have read the article properly
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
‘To and from’ being the giveaway!
Aviation marketing folks never cease to amaze me. 10/10 for creativity, although honesty isn't always their strong point.
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Old 13th Feb 2023, 16:48
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New figures have revealed passenger numbers have hit their highest level since 2011 at Teesside International Airport. No fewer than 173,006 people used the terminal in 2022 – up more than 200% on the previous covid-hit year.
A refreshed business plan has forecast the airport will hit profit during the 2024/25 financial year. The revised vision also shows how the airport has exceeded its route development targets set out in the original 10-year turnaround plan.
While the passenger numbers aren't a shock, the return to profit forecast is interesting. Has anybody used the new fresh produce facility - KLM?

https://www.teessideinternational.co...sside-airport/
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Old 13th Feb 2023, 17:11
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Has anybody used the new fresh produce facility
No they haven't.
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Old 13th Feb 2023, 17:15
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Has anyone sight of the refreshed business plan?

So many figures ! Can’t remember what the original said?
Profit in one year..that’s some going.

Did Ryanair recently also say that 2024 will continue the same program..if so..where is that profit going to come from….so many questions?

Plenty of flowers for Valentine’s Day inbound!
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Old 13th Feb 2023, 17:58
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No - Ryanair have recently 'confirmed' 2023 again.

Been on sale for a while, but gets their name in the paper.

Said nothing about 2024.
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Been looking at booking a holiday recently from Newcastle and have noticed that when you choose your departure airport in the drop down box or the tick box, that Teeside is not showing in alphabetical order now ie near the bottom.
Instead it has been moved directly above Newcastle so its the only airport shown not in alphabetical order. ( Hope that makes sense)
Wonder how that was achieved and will it be a benefit to Teeside.





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Old 13th Feb 2023, 20:10
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Makes sense….I know what you mean as I checked too!

Not sure if that’s good or bad…poor advance loads,subsidies or poor spelling! You choose!
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Originally Posted by fl dutchman
Been looking at booking a holiday recently from Newcastle and have noticed that when you choose your departure airport in the drop down box or the tick box, that Teeside is not showing in alphabetical order now ie near the bottom.
Instead it has been moved directly above Newcastle so its the only airport shown not in alphabetical order. ( Hope that makes sense)
Wonder how that was achieved and will it be a benefit to Teeside.
Not sure which website you were on so I can't check, but I'll hazard a guess it'll be down to the website listing airports by IATA code rather than name. Teesside's is MME - something to do with the airfield's previous name of RAF Middleton St George. One way to check might be to see if London Stansted (STN) is listed before or after is after somewhere like Manchester (MAN)?
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Old 13th Feb 2023, 20:30
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It's the TUI website and your theory works if you select bookings under the 'flights' tab (though London Airports are listed seperately). If you look under the 'holidays' tab, the airports are in alphabetical order.
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