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Old 14th Jan 2023, 07:22
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New hangar for the Overlander blimp? Like the local mayor, full of hot air?
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Old 14th Jan 2023, 14:56
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Must be due a mayor big white teeth photo. 1000s of new jobs....bla
Are you a liebour supporter or do you just hate progression?
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Old 14th Jan 2023, 14:58
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Originally Posted by Jamesair1
Probably not particularly interested as long they can fly to where they want to be from their local airport at a reasonable cost.
Newcastle fanboy right here…
So taxpayers are not to care about Newcastle but we should be up in arms about Teesside with a 10 year plan to return to profit? At least make it make sense
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Old 14th Jan 2023, 16:10
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Originally Posted by s_insania
Are you a liebour supporter or do you just hate progression?
If you didn't realise other than Draken the rest is Blah.
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Old 14th Jan 2023, 17:07
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You make yourself look very childish referring to His Majesties opposition as Liebour.
You dont have to support any particular party to spot BS.

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When will the million pound losses stop?

Teesside published their accounts on the 14th Dec 2022, but I couldn't see a time frame when the mayor or his staff expect to be in profit instead of a ten million loss each year?

https://find-and-update.company-info...filing-history

How many friend of a friend companies are being paid by the money man out of the tax payers money? Anyone got a company name for the security firm and other people who are being paid thousands each year?
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Old 14th Jan 2023, 19:43
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Originally Posted by Beafer
Teesside published their accounts on the 14th Dec 2022, but I couldn't see a time frame when the mayor or his staff expect to be in profit instead of a ten million loss each year?

https://find-and-update.company-info...filing-history

How many friend of a friend companies are being paid by the money man out of the tax payers money? Anyone got a company name for the security firm and other people who are being paid thousands each year?
Beafer just so everyone understands, what is your problem with MME?
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Old 14th Jan 2023, 21:11
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Originally Posted by Beafer
Teesside published their accounts on the 14th Dec 2022, but I couldn't see a time frame when the mayor or his staff expect to be in profit instead of a ten million loss each year?
Think it is said 24-25 into profit. Original plan was year 7, but they are reckoning 2 years ahead of original plan.

The size of the loss this past couple of years has included investment spending, so have to take that into account when looking at the figures.

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Old 15th Jan 2023, 07:08
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24-25 into profit..not sure that will get met!…in fact I’m sure it won’t.

So what would be plan B ?

I’m sure I read in the accounts that £60 million is the outstanding Debt.Would that have to be paid off before a profit is announced?
Or is it yearly operating profit?
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 09:38
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24-25 into profit..not sure that will get met!…in fact I’m sure it won’t.

So what would be plan B ?

I’m sure I read in the accounts that £60 million is the outstanding Debt.Would that have to be paid off before a profit is announced?
Or is it yearly operating profit?
As far as I remember it was operating profit which would be used to repay the loans to the Tees Valley mayoral office.
The debt is mostly the loans, the figure to look at is the equity, the debt against the asset. At the last set of accounts it stood at -£10m (that figure at the time is a little high too as there is a provision for liability that may never materialise of £3m too) meaning that the debts are more than the assets, but this is an asset that is owned by that office so they have in a crude way only spent £10million on the place. As if it were to go under they would still own the asset. Or as was said it would be turned into housing/commerical development again owned by the Tees Valley Mayoral office.
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 09:49
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So it’s win win?
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 09:51
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Originally Posted by onion
As far as I remember it was operating profit which would be used to repay the loans to the Tees Valley mayoral office.
The debt is mostly the loans, the figure to look at is the equity, the debt against the asset. At the last set of accounts it stood at -£10m (that figure at the time is a little high too as there is a provision for liability that may never materialise of £3m too) meaning that the debts are more than the assets, but this is an asset that is owned by that office so they have in a crude way only spent £10million on the place. As if it were to go under they would still own the asset. Or as was said it would be turned into housing/commerical development again owned by the Tees Valley Mayoral office.
I still think the way the current mayor is handing over assets and land to private companies will be what happens to the rest of Teesside.

Someone needs to investigate how the public assets are being given away to private operators? Remember its tax payers money that bought the airport off Peel. Losing £13m a year of the same public money is crazy.
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 10:13
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So it’s win win?
It's only win win if the money couldn't have been better spent elsewhere and if the TVCA gets to benefit from the assetts. What's the position on the ownership of the southside development?

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Old 15th Jan 2023, 10:18
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Originally Posted by Beafer
I still think the way the current mayor is handing over assets and land to private companies will be what happens to the rest of Teesside.

Someone needs to investigate how the public assets are being given away to private operators? Remember its tax payers money that bought the airport off Peel. Losing £13m a year of the same public money is crazy.
Rather than accusing on here take it to your MP or relevant authority or even Police.

Do you have any evidence? I'm not saying private companies haven't been set up outside of the TVCA but are these companies owning the asset or are these companies just operators of the asset?
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 12:00
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Only this week the MP for Stockton stood up in Parliament and asked for a enquiry into the desision to hand the assets of the Teesworks to the Mayors donors who are now alleged to be receiving income that the taxpayer may have expected. The Mayor responded with abuse rather than invite scrutiny. It is reported that the south side development was handed over in a similar way. A little more transparency would be healthy.
Private Eye produced another detailed report this week with criticisms of the Mayor, raising concerns of what has been occurring.
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 12:13
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Yes Private Eye are certainly like Bloodhounds on the trail!
Experience tells us they usually aren’t a million miles away from the truth when they sense perceived unfairness or strange irregularities!

Think they are concentrating more on Tees-works and the Freeport than the airport? But the amount of money spent on the facilities have been mentioned.
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 12:57
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Originally Posted by Grumpy1
Only this week the MP for Stockton stood up in Parliament and asked for a enquiry into the desision to hand the assets of the Teesworks to the Mayors donors who are now alleged to be receiving income that the taxpayer may have expected. The Mayor responded with abuse rather than invite scrutiny. It is reported that the south side development was handed over in a similar way. A little more transparency would be healthy.
Private Eye produced another detailed report this week with criticisms of the Mayor, raising concerns of what has been occurring.
The farmer hasn't been paid for the land which the new Southside road is being built on with dubious planning permissions.
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 13:22
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
The farmer hasn't been paid for the land which the new Southside road is being built on with dubious planning permissions.
Planning permission decision seems to have been last November?

https://www.developmentmanagement.st...=R6MES7PK00900
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 13:41
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Whilst you expect a certain level of aviation-based criticism, some on here need to take their whining elsewhere. If anyone has a problem with how much money we're getting, where it's being spent or who the Mayor is giving what to, I would suggest this is not the forum for you
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 14:21
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Originally Posted by Grumpy1
Private Eye produced another detailed report this week with criticisms of the Mayor, raising concerns of what has been occurring.
Funny how the Private Eye articles are pretty much word for word of articles created by Tees Valley Monitor, the lad behind it is a staunch Labour supporter/ activist. That tells you all you need to know.
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