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If his articles weren't all one sided then I'd take notice. But since they are all attacking the Tories then it is hard to see credibility, as he won't do any articles about Labour whatsoever even if Labour stuff are far far more shocking he won't do an article. He calls himself unbiased but yet shows real bias.
There is another local journalistic page that shows no bias whatsoever and goes after all manner of issues no matter what political alligence. So have real credibility.
There is another local journalistic page that shows no bias whatsoever and goes after all manner of issues no matter what political alligence. So have real credibility.
The usual approach on Pprune is to play the ball not the man.
I've not seen any of the issues raised in TVM tackled on a point by point basis, just the blanket "oh it's biased" response followed by classic "whataboutery".
What's the other site you are referring to?
I've not seen any of the issues raised in TVM tackled on a point by point basis, just the blanket "oh it's biased" response followed by classic "whataboutery".
What's the other site you are referring to?
This thread, unfortunately, seems to now be more about scoring political points than about the airport with most contributors seeming to want its closure......very sad indeed.
Really? You can see criticism of the way it is run, but I don't think any of the regular contributors want it closed. To say 'most' isn't sensible
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If someone is having a pop at a Private Eye article or the person who cited such an article it suggests the bias problem is their own and the truth is inconvenient to their own agenda. Just because a Labour activist highlights something, doesn’t mean it isn’t true. There’s plenty of reporting on Labour (and other parties) anyway, especially in the Rotten Borough section.
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Private Eye frequently and often criticise the Labour politicians. Never heard anybody seriously suggest that PE are left wingers but guess making this allegation is a way of avoiding the subject.
If the airports principal benefactor becomes the subject of criticism and ridicule it will reflect on the airport so if you support the airport the allegations need to be addressed.
If the airports principal benefactor becomes the subject of criticism and ridicule it will reflect on the airport so if you support the airport the allegations need to be addressed.
Just the way it looks to me.........lately, I've seen nothing else but basically, ......"what a waste of resources...which could be better spent elswhere". I sincerely hope I'm misreading things.
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Problem with armchair experts is they think they can see the full picture, when in reality they're lucky if they can see 50%. If the airport was being run badly you would see changes being made at the top. People declare it as being run badly because it's not achieving what they think it should be achieving in an unrealistically truncated timeframe.
So you have a greater overview do you, CO? Don't think it's unreasonable for folks to be able to express an opinion.
Is this you confirming that this is why Stobart left? 
If the airport was being run badly you would see changes being made at the top.
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I never said Private Eye is biased. I said the source of the aricle (TVM) is biased. Take a look at the TVM site and you won't find a single story about Labour, he won't dish the dirt on Labour like he is doing with the Tories. Hence my bias claim.
As for me, I'm a political neutral.
As for me, I'm a political neutral.
I never said Private Eye is biased. I said the source of the aricle (TVM) is biased. Take a look at the TVM site and you won't find a single story about Labour, he won't dish the dirt on Labour like he is doing with the Tories. Hence my bias claim.
As for me, I'm a political neutral.
As for me, I'm a political neutral.
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But Harold, the critical article is in Private Eye and was presumably vetted and approved by their lawyers. You are the one who introduced TVM, possibly as a deflection tactic?
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At risk of becoming arrogant, certainly more than most on here but still not privy to the big picture by a long shot. The problem with opinion is too much of it is uneducated.
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Some just see the headline results after year end and don't even read the context of the outcomes.
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Had to laugh when it says the company has no experience in running ports, just further in the article contradicts themselves by saying the company was the owners of docks/ quays in the area.
I said it was literally word for word copy of TVM article. Not a deflection tactic.
Had to laugh when it says the company has no experience in running ports, just further in the article contradicts themselves by saying the company was the owners of docks/ quays in the area.
Had to laugh when it says the company has no experience in running ports, just further in the article contradicts themselves by saying the company was the owners of docks/ quays in the area.
Also, TVM and Private Eye are covering similar subjects, so there's bound to be some crossover, but their articles are certainly not a word for word copy. Not seen any rebuttals to the points raised.
Getting a bit heated guys!
The facts are.this airport, apart from a brief bonanza period of passenger throughput, but at not much profit..has struggled.
Departure board tells the story(yes other interests are now there)..”Aberdeen,Amsterdam and Alicante !
Too many airports chasing too few passengers.
A lot of money..local tax payers, government hand outs whatever…get real in the modern world ..people are genuinely struggling out there and not just here.but nationwide..investment could be better spent..HS2 anyone?
Sorry for rant!
The facts are.this airport, apart from a brief bonanza period of passenger throughput, but at not much profit..has struggled.
Departure board tells the story(yes other interests are now there)..”Aberdeen,Amsterdam and Alicante !
Too many airports chasing too few passengers.
A lot of money..local tax payers, government hand outs whatever…get real in the modern world ..people are genuinely struggling out there and not just here.but nationwide..investment could be better spent..HS2 anyone?
Sorry for rant!
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Talking to an airport worker today.
Word at the airport is that the man who likes to give his friends land and contracts, has discussed what it posted on PPrune. Rumour has it he posts, and asks the minions to post as well.
Private Eye know a thing or two when it comes to what can be printed. Any news on what the friends private company are planning for the rest of the south side land?
Word at the airport is that the man who likes to give his friends land and contracts, has discussed what it posted on PPrune. Rumour has it he posts, and asks the minions to post as well.
Private Eye know a thing or two when it comes to what can be printed. Any news on what the friends private company are planning for the rest of the south side land?
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Getting a bit heated guys!
The facts are.this airport, apart from a brief bonanza period of passenger throughput, but at not much profit..has struggled.
Departure board tells the story(yes other interests are now there)..”Aberdeen,Amsterdam and Alicante !
Too many airports chasing too few passengers.
A lot of money..local tax payers, government hand outs whatever…get real in the modern world ..people are genuinely struggling out there and not just here.but nationwide..investment could be better spent..HS2 anyone?
Sorry for rant!
The facts are.this airport, apart from a brief bonanza period of passenger throughput, but at not much profit..has struggled.
Departure board tells the story(yes other interests are now there)..”Aberdeen,Amsterdam and Alicante !
Too many airports chasing too few passengers.
A lot of money..local tax payers, government hand outs whatever…get real in the modern world ..people are genuinely struggling out there and not just here.but nationwide..investment could be better spent..HS2 anyone?
Sorry for rant!
Money spent on the airport is not just for a few passenger flights but is keeping well paid jobs with the likes of Draken, hopefully T2 and so much more.
It is also for the Tees Valley area not the wider North East.
The ultimate scrutiny is at the next mayoral election.
Don't forget that some of the money will have been given by central government for the airport specifically ie they put a bid in for the money, Not just for anything the Mayoral office sees fit and as such less money may of been given overall to the area, supporting less jobs!
