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Old 9th May 2022, 15:22
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We didn't see that embarrassment coming. Hope it doesn't effect the staff other than Loganair.
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Old 9th May 2022, 15:33
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I don’t think anyone sensible really thought this route would remain long-term even if it was running at 100% loads. It was a marriage of convenience between a politician wanting content for his party’s leaflets, an airline willing to take an incentive and another one needing their valuable slots filled in a crisis. There were always going to be ‘legitimate’ excuses as to why it must end come the time.

I assume someone wants their slots back in time for Half Term?
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Old 9th May 2022, 15:44
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Originally Posted by Cautious Optimist
The loads on Heathrow were getting good and still improving, Heathrow is exclusively down to costs at the Heathrow end. As for Bristol, Southampton and any future losses, there are more than enough people to use these services, it's poor awareness. Pricing and sometimes flight times are factors, but not enough to render the routes unviable. It's annoying it comes to this needlessly.
Loads really weren’t that impressive. Maybe impressive for MME but not when compared to across their network which at the end of the day, is what it boils down to. Fares also remained low throughout. It’s no real surprise I’m afraid.
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Old 9th May 2022, 15:46
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Yes hit the nail Airport Planner..most thought these routes would always be under threat.
As the deep pocket Loganair subsidies started to run out then the outcome was inevitable? Couple that with generally poor loads (Facebook lists 7 on aHeathrow the other day)expensive fuel and other airport slot requirements then..here is the outcome.

Interesting to see what spin is put on this by the mayor?
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Old 9th May 2022, 15:52
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Interesting to see what spin is put on this by the mayor?
All Heathrows fault - still, might speed up KLM a bit...

This is daylight robbery, and it is disgraceful that Heathrow is attempted to line its own pockets at the expense of not just those passengers who regularly used the service but at the expense of everyone living in the region. This decision shows its disregard for regional connectivity and how Heathrow has turned its back on the North by pricing out regional airport connectivity. I will be writing to the Government to investigate the increased fees from Heathrow, which go directly against the Government’s levelling up agenda. Heathrow cannot be allowed to get away with such a blatant disregard for regional connectivity if it wants to call itself the UK’s airport
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Old 9th May 2022, 15:59
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I suppose the amount of money also being spent Bon the local railway stations and train services would..in the future have a huge impact on the Heathrow route?

Dublin also reducing apparently along with a reduced frequency on the Newquay route.
Belfast usage fees have also recently increased .watch this space.

On a better note apparently the Draken contract will see a massive boost to movements as new aircraft are delivered this week?
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Old 9th May 2022, 16:03
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Thinking of having one last ride between LHR and MME - anyone else interested ?
I do not think a route to London will return for a considerable period of time
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Old 9th May 2022, 16:06
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Is it just me or are some of the quotes a bit odd?.
Phil Forster, Managing Director of Teesside International Airport, said: “I’d like to thank all of our loyal passengers who have been supporting this service since its launch and apologise for the inconvenience this will cause. Rising costs across the industry have meant that the route is no longer viable and not something we could support without passing that on to our passengers.
Kay Ryan, Chief Commercial Officer for Loganair, said: “I am extremely disappointed that Loganair will no longer provide a London Heathrow service due to rising costs, and completely understand the decision taken for all the reasons outlined.
Thought airlines decided on routes and prices?
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Old 9th May 2022, 18:10
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Is it just me or are some of the quotes a bit odd?.



Thought airlines decided on routes and prices?
PSO routes tend to be at the whim of the sponsor.
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Old 9th May 2022, 18:21
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Originally Posted by Cat Techie
PSO routes tend to be at the whim of the sponsor.
That may well be, but this isn't a PSO route. Allegedly no subsidies
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Old 9th May 2022, 18:46
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
That may well be, but this isn't a PSO route. Allegedly no subsidies
Whatever, it seems it wasn't profitable for the airline.
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Old 9th May 2022, 19:06
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Originally Posted by NickBarnes
Southampton and London Heathrow to end on 24

Will continue to operate Aberdeen, Belfast City, Dublin and Newquay.
Although MME-ABZ will continue, the ending of the MME-SOU route does of course mean that SOU-ABZ (via MME) will no longer be served as well.
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Old 9th May 2022, 19:32
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If they can axe NCL-ABZ then they don't value any of their routes
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Old 9th May 2022, 21:22
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Sadly..plenty of subsidies…and they are all starting to run out!

Draken and Willis not sure…but at least they do generate some business?

Fire School..yes..plenty of business and revenue..but don’t fit into the (flawed) business model !
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Old 9th May 2022, 21:38
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Sadly..plenty of subsidies…and they are all starting to run out!

Fire School..yes..plenty of business and revenue..but don’t fit into the (flawed) business model !
What is the business model.
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Old 10th May 2022, 20:18
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https://bdaily.co.uk/articles/2022/0...lmost-a-decade
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Old 10th May 2022, 22:22
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I bet he ate that cake!
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Old 11th May 2022, 10:11
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
All Heathrows fault - still, might speed up KLM a bit...
Seen on LinkedIn this morning that KLM have announced they're increasing up to twice-daily flights from/to MME.
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Old 11th May 2022, 11:57
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Yes, twice a day starting from 23 May; once a day on weekends.

Also looks like the weekday morning rotation will be on the bigger E190 during July and August.

Latest date for 3 x daily is first week in September.
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Old 11th May 2022, 12:53
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Why can KLM make interchange via AMS work when we can't make a UK solution via LHR work?
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