Teesside-2

[N707ZS]

They could do with finding an operator or operators for a couple of winter sun holidays as the demand seems to be there judging by the neighbouring airports.

[onion]

400k is probably optimistic with the current timetabled flights although technically there does appear to be 400k+ seats on sale.

[Harold77]

Back last year it was thought everything will have been over with, and travel returning to normal early on. They weren't expecting another quarter of the year to be lost to covid restrictions, not so much in the UK but restrictions still strong in other countries.

So 400k could have been really achievable this year, but the slow release of restrictions around the world has knocked everything back. So hopefully the way this year is panning out, getting 250k would be good to see.

[highwideandugly]

250k. pushing it?

Heathrow won’t reach anywhere near 80k with only one flight 6 days per week..especially if slot is reclaimed by BA?
KLM don’t have much appetite for a full return so that 130k is doubtful also?
Southampton 30k..no way (7k more than Aberdeen?)
Dublin 15k from a standing start?
Jersey half the Newquay projection?

[Harold77]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

So you expected Antalya to be dropped?

I knew I was forgetting something. lol

[Harold77]

Originally Posted by highwideandugly

250k. pushing it?

Heathrow won’t reach anywhere near 80k with only one flight 6 days per week..especially if slot is reclaimed by BA?
KLM don’t have much appetite for a full return so that 130k is doubtful also?
Southampton 30k..no way (7k more than Aberdeen?)
Dublin 15k from a standing start?
Jersey half the Newquay projection?

Like I say these were predictions from last year, with expectations of full and expanded timetables being in operation. Expectation that covid restrictions globally would have finished beginning of 2022 so to allow full timetable to be implemented.

I have ommitted figures from the list the list of new flights that were expected to start this year, that would have pushed passenger figures to over 500k. Depending on covid entry restrictions in other countries being lifted very soon we may see some of these put in the system for this year. But it is expected that everything is pushed back to 2023 start dates now. So 2023 could see a full and expanded timetable and new flights/ routes/ operators in operation that would push passenger figures to over 750k.

[GrahamK]

Who other than Loganair is likely to start new flights from MME though? Slap back in the middle of LBA and NCL, both of whom are partially owned by the same Australian company, I'd think they'll be doing what they can to attract the airlines back.

[SKOJB]

GA and cargo are the way forward for MME as it sure ain’t passenger traffic!

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by SKOJB

GA and cargo are the way forward for MME as it sure ain’t passenger traffic!

Look at a map - where's the market for GA and Cargo that will support an international airport? The strategy has to be to get all these elements to contribute along with development of the property potential.

And picking up on GrahamK's point, wonder if it is a coincidence that RYR have set up a base at NCLand expanded the base at LBA since RYR pitched up at MME?

[N707ZS]

Hope the property potential doesn't see the demise of the airport.

Went pasted yesterday and the number of trees that are being destroyed for the new road was alarming, not just those in the roads path but also either side past the new fence.

[Harold77]

Originally Posted by GrahamK

Who other than Loganair is likely to start new flights from MME though? Slap back in the middle of LBA and NCL, both of whom are partially owned by the same Australian company, I'd think they'll be doing what they can to attract the airlines back.

At least two or three airlines in the pipeline for Teesside.

[highwideandugly]

It’s a long pipe line me thinks!

[Cautious Optimist]

If Harold77 is who I think he is (due to duplicate posts on here and another platform recently), then his reputation precedes him and anything he says is to be taken with a very large pinch of salt

[Harold77]

Originally Posted by Cautious Optimist

If Harold77 is who I think he is (due to duplicate posts on here and another platform recently), then his reputation precedes him and anything he says is to be taken with a very large pinch of salt

If you know where to look for info, the info is out there. It is just a case of knowing how to join the dots and crossing the Tees.

[SWBKCB]

Draw us a picture then.

[jorvik]

I think some people love to live in a fantasy world where local political spin and bluster doesn’t match up to promises. Best of luck to MME, but the passenger market it’s small and well covered in the area by other airports. Not many roads left to go down for new carriers. FR will continue with a token offering for ease, but with expansion at LBA and a new base at NCL, they will be sure not to go to far. Cargo is a promise land and where MME might cut through. But unfortunately pallets and boxes don’t spend money in the car parks and shops.

[highwideandugly]

Mind..I like the Tees reference!

[tigertanaka]

January CAA stats:

Terminal passengers: 2,882 (compared to 5,798 last month, 697 passengers in Jan 2021 and 9,803 in Jan 2020)

• Aberdeen: 963 (down 36% v December but up 76% v Jan last year)
• Belfast City: 279 (down 50% v Dec, only 19 pax in Jan last year)
• Heathrow: 700 (down 48% v Dec, only 27 in Jan last year)
• Alicante: 311 (down 73% v Dec)
• Amsterdam: 629 (down 20% v Dec)

A really disappointing month but passenger numbers perhaps not surprising given the low number of rotations (Aberdeen had 16% fewer flights in January compared to December, Belfast -38%, Heathrow -35%, Alicante -78% and Amsterdam -20%). The general trend (apart from Alicante) is that loads are down versus December.

Amsterdam will be even worse in February and things don't look like they are going to improve there until the end of March when KLM are scheduled to back to a daily service, still a far cry from the 18 outbound flights a week the airport enjoyed 2 years ago. Heathrow is due to go back to a double daily on 1 April so fingers crossed that happens, especially as (anecdotally) loads have apparently been strong recently.

[highwideandugly]

Ouch! Not much there for someone to hang their bicorn hat on ?

Not sure when the next financial figures are published..but going to make interesting and uncomfortable reading.

Hope the Spa is doing well..l

[SKOJB]

Blimey they are shocking numbers!