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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 06:05
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What the travel industry needs to remember is you get what you pay for - guess what, treat people badly, pay them poorly, they don't jump when you say "jump"
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 07:23
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Lets be honest here, MAN was a problem before the pandemic. Undoubtedly, the rudest security staff I've ever come across at a UK airport. And I'm a frequent flyer.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 08:56
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Totally agree with you, it has been under performing for quite sometime in that respect, indeed I struggle to think of something that they have over performed at ! I am inbound on EK tomorrow lunchtime so we will see what I find.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 10:47
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yet noone walks with their feet and still queue…but the oblivious think its all running as normal. A third of my colleagues were off with covid last week…
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 10:57
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
yet noone walks with their feet and still queue…but the oblivious think its all running as normal. A third of my colleagues were off with covid last week…
…and out of that third, how many really had Covid and were so genuinely ill that they could not work. I’m guessing it was a lot less. This is a British disease of throwing ‘sickies’ because people just don’t fancy working on a particular day. Many see it as getting ‘one up ‘ on the company, except in this industry, it’s your colleagues who really suffer as they have to pick up the slack in an already impossible situation.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 11:03
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Originally Posted by LBAflyer22
Think what people need to remember is when you turn off the travel sector and shut the world, as a total over reaction to something which wasn’t/isn’t a threat to the majority of the population, turning that sector back on was always going to be difficult.

People have left the industry for better conditions, others got sacked/took redundancy. Those skills and that experience has now gone. But filling those roles, getting them people back, will/is proving to be difficult. As people don’t see the industry as something they want to get into - due poor pay, conditions when compared to other jobs, and unstable. Your left with the staff that were kept and I wouldn’t be surprised now to see them going off long term sick with stress etc.

I also think smaller airports may fair way better - LPL, LBA, DSA, EMA, then MAN due to this press etc. What people on Twitter, and, fake news outlets such as BBC news, need to remember is the majority of airports in the U.K. are all suffering the same thing on different scales but none the less the same. The industry has been crippled and is struggling to the recover. This is the tip of the iceberg - summer is going to be one hell of a bumpy ride.
Please take your conspiracy nonsense to Jet Blast where it belongs. 🙄
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 11:08
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…and out of that third, how many really had Covid and were so genuinely ill that they could not work. I’m guessing it was a lot less. This is a British disease of throwing ‘sickies’ because people just don’t fancy working on a particular day. Many see it as getting ‘one up ‘ on the company, except in this industry, it’s your colleagues who really suffer as they have to pick up the slack in an already impossible situation.
Utter cr@p!
We are being instructed by our management to test regularly and if the test is positive we isolate (IE do not come to work) until either we have two consecutive negative tests or eleven days have passed. Many people are still suffering from Covid and the long term effects. I am one of them.
Please take your reactionary Daily Hate narrative and shove it!
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 11:15
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Utter cr@p!
We are being instructed by our management to test regularly and if the test is positive we isolate (IE do not come to work) until either we have two consecutive negative tests or eleven days have passed. Many people are still suffering from Covid and the long term effects. I am one of them.
Please take your reactionary Daily Hate narrative and shove it!
I stand by what I say, most sickness in this country is people who just don’t fancy working. Was true before Covid and is now a convenient excuse post Covid.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 11:45
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On the contrary, because of our very low rates of sick pay, lower paid workers feel forced to come to work when they shouldn't, thereby infecting everyone else.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 11:54
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Originally Posted by inOban
On the contrary, because of our very low rates of sick pay, lower paid workers feel forced to come to work when they shouldn't, thereby infecting everyone else.
Low rates of sick pay does not stop people taking sick leave I can assure you. If you’re in a low payed job with no sick pay, then having the odd day of here and there will not make much difference to the overall income.

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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 13:04
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The figures at present say covid is as bad as is has been so The96er you may well be talking through your hat
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 13:24
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I stand by what I say, most sickness in this country is people who just don’t fancy working. Was true before Covid and is now a convenient excuse post Covid.
If you are talking the public sector I might agree, however people working in the private sector, especially for small businesses normally work through illness that others will have time off with.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 13:40
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
If you are talking the public sector I might agree, however people working in the private sector, especially for small businesses normally work through illness that others will have time off with.
I work in the private sector with no sick pay and the current sickness rate is very high in my place of work and I know a lot of said sickness is not genuine. Just a strong bout of ‘cantbebothereditus’. My be different for a small business, but is definitely true for a large business.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 13:42
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Originally Posted by chaps1954
The figures at present say covid is as bad as is has been so The96er you may well be talking through your hat
The people in my place of work who are taking sick leave are the same ones who often took sick leave pre-Covid. Make of that what you will.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 15:19
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Oh well time to find another job then at a better place where people care about what they do, perhaps when they get their heating bills next month
and find how much things are going to cost at the shops and petrol station they might think again. obviously the company knowns they can get more labour
as most companies monitor sickness
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 15:37
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Originally Posted by The96er
I stand by what I say, most sickness in this country is people who just don’t fancy working. Was true before Covid and is now a convenient excuse post Covid.
The myth of sick days lost in the UK pontificated ad nauseam 😠

Few facts among the worst sick pay in the developed World economies .

Actual facts

Still like to blame the poor !



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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 16:08
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Originally Posted by chaps1954
The figures at present say covid is as bad as is has been so The96er you may well be talking through your hat
Deaths? No.
Serious illnesses? No.
Infections? Testing is ending, hard to say.
To say "is as bad as has been" is objectively false.

PRE COVID, MAN had an appaling problem with the attitude and efficiency of it's security operation who openly boasted of doing things over and above DfT rules, "the Manchester way"". Over time the pushback from hacked off customers has made the atmosphere there corrosive. Then add in going back post COVID into a stuffy semi ventilated area of passive aggresive or plain angry customers and you can see why they might be struggling. Driving for DPD in the fresh air seems suddenly way more appealing. It's the culmination of many things, MAN has a perfect storm.... I mean who needs that sort of hassle in their working lives if you can get a better deal elsewhere?
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 16:17
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4.9 million with covid seems pretty bad to me
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 16:30
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The ONS random sampling of the population establishes that infection rates are as high as they have ever been, if not higher. Fact. True, the current variant generally gives a milder illness, helped by widespread vaccination and better treatments. But our hospitals are again full of people either with Covid on its own or whose treatment is compromised by their Covid or by the number of doctors and nurses off work with Covid. Fact.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 16:43
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Originally Posted by HOVIS
Utter cr@p!
We are being instructed by our management to test regularly and if the test is positive we isolate (IE do not come to work) until either we have two consecutive negative tests or eleven days have passed.
Which is exactly the scenario in my place of work. It never once crossed my mind that the majority would be ‘faking it’. And most others are sensible with their future travel plans instead of this gangbusters disaster… seemingly now at MAN, LHR and EDI.
BA now limiting further ticket sales to full Y and J only…
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