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I agree it does seem strange if CX cancelled previously held slots or didn't apply for new ones if the old slots had already been cancelled. On the other hand, getting slots now shouldn't be a problem I would have thought, and it would certainly be good news for MAN if regular, rather than ad-hoc, CX flights do resume in July.
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I wonder why United just canned their flights! Always pretty full and upgraded to a 767-400 prior to covid! Sane with American but their services was to say the least not that good!
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The problem is if you take a COVID case into HKG the flt is automatically banned for 2 weeks, so to avoid this possible disruption the flts are scheduled around 2 weeks apart for the time being and until HKG changes the rules it will stay that way unfortunately. At least MAN is still operating, in times gone by it would of been dropped completely! The first pax carrying flt out of the UK for some time departed LHR last night.
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The point of sale balance was skewed massively in favour of UK originating I believe. EDI and DUB have a large % of inbound visiting US tourism, MAN less so it seems.
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Doesn't fully explain it, though, to be fair. For instance, how many Emiratis book DXB-MAN, yet there are two or three flights daily by the flag carrier. The destinations histoically served from MAN by US airlines were in the main big hubs and so should generate enough traffic via hubbing, wherever it originates. I can understand that many Americans still only see London as the gateway to England even when they are touring the country, but there is still a market share of the UK originating traffic up for grabs.
From the EDI thread - the upguage compensates for the delayed start for ORD?
United S22
EDI-ORD
Route resumption pushed back to 1st July from ORD.
EDI-IAD
Resumes as planned from May. Aircraft upgraded to 764 for May and June. 752 from July.
ORD route I’m guessing has poor forward bookings in early summer months or United have issues with aircraft availability.
Interesting development.
EDI-ORD
Route resumption pushed back to 1st July from ORD.
EDI-IAD
Resumes as planned from May. Aircraft upgraded to 764 for May and June. 752 from July.
ORD route I’m guessing has poor forward bookings in early summer months or United have issues with aircraft availability.
Interesting development.
Doesn't fully explain it, though, to be fair. For instance, how many Emiratis book DXB-MAN, yet there are two or three flights daily by the flag carrier. The destinations histoically served from MAN by US airlines were in the main big hubs and so should generate enough traffic via hubbing, wherever it originates. I can understand that many Americans still only see London as the gateway to England even when they are touring the country, but there is still a market share of the UK originating traffic up for grabs.
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‘Massive imbalance’ between outbound and inbound travel revealed | Travel Weekly
Flight booking data may also play a part. Outbound to the US down 10% whilst inbound from US down 24% vice 2019.
With airlines wanting to protect their slots at LHR it is I suppose inevitable that other regions may miss out at least in the short term. There are some positives in the data as far as other outbound markets are concerned so far from all doom and gloom
Flight booking data may also play a part. Outbound to the US down 10% whilst inbound from US down 24% vice 2019.
With airlines wanting to protect their slots at LHR it is I suppose inevitable that other regions may miss out at least in the short term. There are some positives in the data as far as other outbound markets are concerned so far from all doom and gloom
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‘Massive imbalance’ between outbound and inbound travel revealed | Travel Weekly
Flight booking data may also play a part. Outbound to the US down 10% whilst inbound from US down 24% vice 2019.
With airlines wanting to protect their slots at LHR it is I suppose inevitable that other regions may miss out at least in the short term. There are some positives in the data as far as other outbound markets are concerned so far from all doom and gloom
Flight booking data may also play a part. Outbound to the US down 10% whilst inbound from US down 24% vice 2019.
With airlines wanting to protect their slots at LHR it is I suppose inevitable that other regions may miss out at least in the short term. There are some positives in the data as far as other outbound markets are concerned so far from all doom and gloom
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Looks like another day of disgruntled passengers
https://twitter.com/GilhamJane/status/1509972456156585986?t=glgqFCrCD1wv6w2en-tUzQ&s=19
the lady that posted this says she had T1 Fast Track and it took 3 hours
https://twitter.com/GilhamJane/status/1509972456156585986?t=glgqFCrCD1wv6w2en-tUzQ&s=19
the lady that posted this says she had T1 Fast Track and it took 3 hours
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Managed to breeze through security last Wednesday morning in T1.
however sat onboard doors closed for 45 minutes as bags & cargo not loaded.
Departed one hour late.
Lots of pax sweating on connections.
(TAP to LIS)
however sat onboard doors closed for 45 minutes as bags & cargo not loaded.
Departed one hour late.
Lots of pax sweating on connections.
(TAP to LIS)
Looks like another day of disgruntled passengers
https://twitter.com/GilhamJane/status/1509972456156585986?t=glgqFCrCD1wv6w2en-tUzQ&s=19
the lady that posted this says she had T1 Fast Track and it took 3 hours
https://twitter.com/GilhamJane/status/1509972456156585986?t=glgqFCrCD1wv6w2en-tUzQ&s=19
the lady that posted this says she had T1 Fast Track and it took 3 hours
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Think what people need to remember is when you turn off the travel sector and shut the world, as a total over reaction to something which wasn’t/isn’t a threat to the majority of the population, turning that sector back on was always going to be difficult.
People have left the industry for better conditions, others got sacked/took redundancy. Those skills and that experience has now gone. But filling those roles, getting them people back, will/is proving to be difficult. As people don’t see the industry as something they want to get into - due poor pay, conditions when compared to other jobs, and unstable. Your left with the staff that were kept and I wouldn’t be surprised now to see them going off long term sick with stress etc.
I also think smaller airports may fair way better - LPL, LBA, DSA, EMA, then MAN due to this press etc. What people on Twitter, and, fake news outlets such as BBC news, need to remember is the majority of airports in the U.K. are all suffering the same thing on different scales but none the less the same. The industry has been crippled and is struggling to the recover. This is the tip of the iceberg - summer is going to be one hell of a bumpy ride.
People have left the industry for better conditions, others got sacked/took redundancy. Those skills and that experience has now gone. But filling those roles, getting them people back, will/is proving to be difficult. As people don’t see the industry as something they want to get into - due poor pay, conditions when compared to other jobs, and unstable. Your left with the staff that were kept and I wouldn’t be surprised now to see them going off long term sick with stress etc.
I also think smaller airports may fair way better - LPL, LBA, DSA, EMA, then MAN due to this press etc. What people on Twitter, and, fake news outlets such as BBC news, need to remember is the majority of airports in the U.K. are all suffering the same thing on different scales but none the less the same. The industry has been crippled and is struggling to the recover. This is the tip of the iceberg - summer is going to be one hell of a bumpy ride.
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We did also have a working population who, rightly or wrongly, would do those low paid jobs. The country made a decision that it didn't want those people to be able to move freely into the UK and this is one of the consequences