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You failed to even spell "professional" and "network". So get off your high horse, truth be told GDPR does have some grey areas, and any complaint may well succeed. Having had to deal with the legislation, we always erred on the side of caution, these guys have not. That's not to say I think they're breaking the rules, that's to say only the lawyers will win in the end if a case is raised.
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You failed to even spell "professional" and "network". So get off your high horse, truth be told GDPR does have some grey areas, and any complaint may well succeed. Having had to deal with the legislation, we always erred on the side of caution, these guys have not. That's not to say I think they're breaking the rules, that's to say only the lawyers will win in the end if a case is raised.
Can they ask? Grey area, it's not "rubbish", it's just not super clear what's "reasonable". IMHO and presumably their lawyers, it's legal but it's not good practice and among data marketeers it's rightly frowned upon. It's basically a cold email from a bankrupt business from two years ago who may well owe you money (except it's an all new business when it suits them to be and legally they don't)!
https://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/con...ting-databases
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They are. It just happens that they bought some liquidated assets from the administrators including the marketing database. If they were called Brum air would your opinion be the same? They clealy feel there is some value in the brand and that's why they've bought it.
Yes - its not the name I've got an issue with, but the way the situation has been engineered to get out of paying the money they owe. Yes, I know it's legal, yes I know it business but doesn't make it right.
The flip flopping between "Hey, we are back" and "no connection, fresh start" when it suits is just irritating in the grand scheme of things.
The flip flopping between "Hey, we are back" and "no connection, fresh start" when it suits is just irritating in the grand scheme of things.
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...but the way the situation has been engineered to get out of paying the money they owe. Yes, I know it's legal, yes I know it business but doesn't make it right.
The flip flopping between "Hey, we are back" and "no connection, fresh start" when it suits is just irritating in the grand scheme of things.
The flip flopping between "Hey, we are back" and "no connection, fresh start" when it suits is just irritating in the grand scheme of things.
Fbe Realisations Ltd (Old Flybe) owe the money. Not this newly named Flybe (Old Thyme Opco Ltd) But yes, they engineered a global pandemic to go out of business and make thousands redundant.https://find-and-update.company-info...mpany/02769768
All Thyme Opco did was purchase the Flybe name, and a bit of intellectual property. There was no airline. They had to create one. It's a brand new entity. New AOC, new approvals, new licenses.
..and whilst you might wax lyrically about the owner/investor of the Flybe1 v Flybe2... let's not forget what year they actually bought Flybe1 (along with Stobart and Virgin) and the ****show they inherited, after decades of incompetence. The damage had been done by then.
But carry on grinding that axe.
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...to get out of paying the money they owe?? Fbe Realisations Ltd (Old Flybe) owe the money. Not this newly named Flybe (Old Thyme Opco Ltd) But yes, they engineered a global pandemic to go out of business and make thousands redundant.
https://find-and-update.company-info...mpany/02769768
All Thyme Opco did was purchase the Flybe name, and a bit of intellectual property. There was no airline. They had to create one. It's a brand new entity. New AOC, new approvals, new licenses.
..and whilst you might wax lyrically about the owner/investor of the Flybe1 v Flybe2... let's not forget what year they actually bought Flybe1 (along with Stobart and Virgin) and the ****show they inherited, after decades of incompetence. The damage had been done by then.
But carry on grinding that axe.
Fbe Realisations Ltd (Old Flybe) owe the money. Not this newly named Flybe (Old Thyme Opco Ltd) But yes, they engineered a global pandemic to go out of business and make thousands redundant.https://find-and-update.company-info...mpany/02769768
All Thyme Opco did was purchase the Flybe name, and a bit of intellectual property. There was no airline. They had to create one. It's a brand new entity. New AOC, new approvals, new licenses.
..and whilst you might wax lyrically about the owner/investor of the Flybe1 v Flybe2... let's not forget what year they actually bought Flybe1 (along with Stobart and Virgin) and the ****show they inherited, after decades of incompetence. The damage had been done by then.
But carry on grinding that axe.
They also seem to have bought the LHR slots which given the charging regime will be nigh on impossible to turn a profit on. The name they bought was a failed business which collapsed in a mess owing a lot of people money they'll never see. So it's a fair criticism to say that's maybe a mistake. Any other name and we'd not be having this conversation. Add to the fact the new flybe are marketing this, in their words as a "return" and a "relaunch". So they're trying to have this both ways. It's that bit I am finding somewhat dishonest and disreputable. Making deals on the one hand with out of pocket handling agents and airports saying "we're all brand new and no relation to old flybe" and then saying to the public "look it's flybe, we're back again".
It leaves a bad taste.
In insolation you're 100% correct. Legally and technically right. But let's add some details.
They also seem to have bought the LHR slots which given the charging regime will be nigh on impossible to turn a profit on. The name they bought was a failed business which collapsed in a mess owing a lot of people money they'll never see. So it's a fair criticism to say that's maybe a mistake. Any other name and we'd not be having this conversation. Add to the fact the new flybe are marketing this, in their words as a "return" and a "relaunch". So they're trying to have this both ways. It's that bit I am finding somewhat dishonest and disreputable. Making deals on the one hand with out of pocket handling agents and airports saying "we're all brand new and no relation to old flybe" and then saying to the public "look it's flybe, we're back again".
It leaves a bad taste.
They also seem to have bought the LHR slots which given the charging regime will be nigh on impossible to turn a profit on. The name they bought was a failed business which collapsed in a mess owing a lot of people money they'll never see. So it's a fair criticism to say that's maybe a mistake. Any other name and we'd not be having this conversation. Add to the fact the new flybe are marketing this, in their words as a "return" and a "relaunch". So they're trying to have this both ways. It's that bit I am finding somewhat dishonest and disreputable. Making deals on the one hand with out of pocket handling agents and airports saying "we're all brand new and no relation to old flybe" and then saying to the public "look it's flybe, we're back again".
It leaves a bad taste.
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I endorse those comments too. Nothing against those who are seeking employment in aviation in these difficult times, but Skipness has hit the nail on the head perfectly.
1321 posts on this subject. Then:
Sums this whole thread in a nutshell!
One thing I do not understand, (Please forgive my ignorance) Is why the insistence of keeping the amended 'Purple' a/c livery? Brand new airline, but relying on our predecessors brand....Odd
"Making deals on the one hand with out of pocket handling agents and airports saying "we're all brand new and no relation to old flybe" and then saying to the public "look it's flybe, we're back again"
One thing I do not understand, (Please forgive my ignorance) Is why the insistence of keeping the amended 'Purple' a/c livery? Brand new airline, but relying on our predecessors brand....Odd
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Better might be those who disagree with the way UK corporate law works and wish to use this thread to vent their frustration about it open a Jet Blast thread to do so?
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Agree. Take the twaddle to JB and let the adults talk here. Or rename this thread “Flybe Realisations Ltd” and we’ll have a new thread called Flybe.
Maybe if people say it again it’ll get through some thick skulls. So many agendas here.
Maybe if people say it again it’ll get through some thick skulls. So many agendas here.