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Give me strength...I'll say this slowly so the hard of thinking can get it....They can't sell the slots. I'll say that again....They can't sell the slots. That's right, the slots are not and never will be theirs to sell as they are remedy slots and would be returned to BA.
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The rules stated that after 6 consecutive seasons the operator had the freedom to use the slots for routes other than Aberdeen and Edinburgh.
(Old) flybe allegedly attempted to legally test the ownership question, no doubt new flybe are doing the same...
There is also the question whether or not new flybe's use of the slots will be seen as a continuation of old flybe's use - in other words whether they are released from having to operate Aberdeen and Edinburgh for the 6 seasons. The fact that there are persistent rumours about other flybe Heathrow routes about to be announced might indicate that they've reached agreement at least on that element (or would like the market to believe they have)?
Give me strength...I'll say this slowly so the hard of thinking can get it....They can't sell the slots. I'll say that again....They can't sell the slots. That's right, the slots are not and never will be theirs to sell as they are remedy slots and would be returned to BA.
They can, however, be held onto and utilised and become part of the enterprise value to any prospective buyer of the company.
Get the picture now?
They can, however, be held onto and utilised and become part of the enterprise value to any prospective buyer of the company.
Get the picture now?
Skipness. A good example of not being able to absorb information ih the fact that you think i said i was a pilot!!!
The CAA don't care as they are clearly party to the arrangements
The CAA don't care as they are clearly party to the arrangements
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If the investors think they will get a return on their investment flying Q400s from Leeds to Heathrow then good luck to them. I suppose it will be the negativity on here that does them in.
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I think you misunderstood me. I was saying the route is so likely to be hugely loss making that when it ends or the carrier does the same cheerleaders will blame the negativity of us because we didn’t cheer for Flybe loud enough.
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Is there any reference to these being the BA remedy slots?
Is it possible with the downturn in business and the increase in "use it or lose it" percentages for summer that either they are borrowing the slots from another airline in the short term or have gained the slots in their own right because other airlines have handed them back?
The first seems the more likely I would have thought.
Is it possible with the downturn in business and the increase in "use it or lose it" percentages for summer that either they are borrowing the slots from another airline in the short term or have gained the slots in their own right because other airlines have handed them back?
The first seems the more likely I would have thought.
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Flybe to go on sale
Tickets for new Flybe routes are to go on sale next week from Tuesday 22nd March.
https://p1ainaz1aukwstore.z35.web.co...econd_Base.pdf
https://p1ainaz1aukwstore.z35.web.co...econd_Base.pdf
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You moan if people comment and moan if people don’t. I thought for a moment you’d got the spelling right this time but looks like I thought too soon 😂
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Bean, it’s early in the evening and plenty of time to keep at the G&T. As others say, you moan when people comment and moan when they don’t. It’s a poor effort to suppress debate.
I’ve seen the list of routes. I can’t see this business has any hope of success. No point trying to have a sensible debate about that here as anything said will be shouted down and derided.
I’ve seen the list of routes. I can’t see this business has any hope of success. No point trying to have a sensible debate about that here as anything said will be shouted down and derided.
Bean, it’s early in the evening and plenty of time to keep at the G&T. As others say, you moan when people comment and moan when they don’t. It’s a poor effort to suppress debate.
I’ve seen the list of routes. I can’t see this business has any hope of success. No point trying to have a sensible debate about that here as anything said will be shouted down and derided.
I’ve seen the list of routes. I can’t see this business has any hope of success. No point trying to have a sensible debate about that here as anything said will be shouted down and derided.
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That’s exactly it. With so much yet to happen, it absolutely isn’t time for the thread to be closed, yet it’s another attempt to stifle discussion and debate. Thanks for confirming the obvious.
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I thought the leaked set of routes from Jenny a few weeks back seemed quite sensible and a good starting point.
However, routes like Leeds > Lhr, if true, are a waste of time IMO. Longer, and more of an effort then getting the train. But all I do is press buttons at the pointy end all day long so what do I know!
However, routes like Leeds > Lhr, if true, are a waste of time IMO. Longer, and more of an effort then getting the train. But all I do is press buttons at the pointy end all day long so what do I know!
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In pre-COVID times, the routes from SOU to various destinations in northern England and Scotland were frequently very busy, with a large number of business users, together with a fair bit of ‘friends and families’ traffic.
To travel from the south coast to the north by rail involves journey times which are much, much longer than from London. For example, day return travel by rail from London to Manchester, Leeds and even Newcastle is a realistic proposition, and rail is a very viable alternative to flying. The situation from the south coast is very different, with the extended journey times making it virtually impossible.
However, I guess we are now living in very different times and I no longer travel up and down the country for business on a regular business, and it’s very difficult to see the previous level of regional domestic air travel ever returning.
To travel from the south coast to the north by rail involves journey times which are much, much longer than from London. For example, day return travel by rail from London to Manchester, Leeds and even Newcastle is a realistic proposition, and rail is a very viable alternative to flying. The situation from the south coast is very different, with the extended journey times making it virtually impossible.
However, I guess we are now living in very different times and I no longer travel up and down the country for business on a regular business, and it’s very difficult to see the previous level of regional domestic air travel ever returning.