BA Cityflyer-2

[virginblue]

Never quite understood Flybe's network at LCY. While EDI is somewhat plausible, given Scot/Cityjet's long-time presence on the route in competition with BACF, AMS and DUS are less so. Although AMS is the busiest route from LCY, BE is competing with two incumbent flag carriers and most probably will have to undercut them to attract business. DUS is a somewhat odd destination given that it used to be one of BACF's thinner routes, served for quite some time with a Saab 2000 and then with an E70. Not sure what BE saw in that route.

[Wycombe]

DUS is a somewhat odd destination

Not sure what BE saw in that route.

Isn't there a Flybe crew base there?

[virginblue]

Yes, there is (and BE serves BHX, MAN, LBA, SOU and CWL from there). But DUS-LCY has never been a particularly busy route and there are some busier monoply routes from LCY such as GLA, RTM or LUX that are turboprop suitable.

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by virginblue

Yes, there is (and BE serves BHX, MAN, LBA, SOU and CWL from there). But DUS-LCY has never been a particularly busy route and there are some busier monoply routes from LCY such as GLA, RTM or LUX that are turboprop suitable.

I suppose that's because DUS serves an area in Germany where "real work" is done (the productive stuff that manufactures things) rather than playing with (usually other people's) money - the normal preserve of passengers travelling from LCY, destined for FRA or Luxembourg!

[BA318]

BA/IAG are said to be deciding between the Airbus A220 and Embraer E2 to replace BA Cityflyer's fleet.

According to the article below the decision will be made in the coming months. The order would be for at least 26 aircraft.

https://www.aerotelegraph.com/iag-looking-at-embraers-e2-jets-or-airbus-a220-for-ba-cityflyer

[WHBM]

Is the E2 the same size as the current E190 ? The latter fits all the current stands and taxyway, whereas the Swiss A220-100 is apparently confined to the four east end stands.

Has the prototype E2 even been to LCY yet and done the steep approach ?

[BA318]

Yes. The E2 has been into LCY. It came in before Farnborough.

https://www.londoncityairport.com/me...mbraer-e190-e2

I would imagine the big plus for the A220 is that it can operate JFK non-stop and potentially open additional routes. By the time these are delivered the new stands will also be open which will offer around 12 or more that could take the A220 which should be sufficient.

[WHBM]

Although the JFK nonstop looks an advantage, that would inevitably be a different subfleet with quite a different cabin fit. And of course the JFK flight on the A318 is a BA mainline operation, not Ciytflyer.

[USERNAME_]

Originally Posted by WHBM

Although the JFK nonstop looks an advantage, that would inevitably be a different subfleet with quite a different cabin fit. And of course the JFK flight on the A318 is a BA mainline operation, not Ciytflyer.

Believe that unite are currently fighting a case for the JFK route to be moved to Cityflyer. This case is for the benefit of BACF and Gatwick fleet who have to position to/from LGW before and after every flight.

[WHBM]

There's a very good service reliability reason why the New York flights are crewed from Gatwick and not LCY; it takes a little understanding.

[USERNAME_]

Originally Posted by WHBM

There's a very good service reliability reason why the New York flights are crewed from Gatwick and not LCY; it takes a little understanding.

Not my fight to argue for or against. Imagine it’ll save a couple of quid on coaches at the very least.

[BAladdy]

One of the two E90’s (EI-GHK) leased from Stobart flown from LCY to AMS yesterday evening and this afternoon was was used to operate flights on behalf of of KL.

Does anyone know if the lease has ended on this aircraft?.

[GLCYZ]

Originally Posted by BAladdy

One of the two E90’s (EI-GHK) leased from Stobart flown from LCY to AMS yesterday evening and this afternoon was was used to operate flights on behalf of of KL.

Does anyone know if the lease has ended on this aircraft?.

If not ended yet it will be ending very soon, with delivery of G-LCAB imminent.

[Jet Set Willie]

Originally Posted by BAladdy

One of the two E90’s (EI-GHK) leased from Stobart flown from LCY to AMS yesterday evening and this afternoon was was used to operate flights on behalf of of KL.

Does anyone know if the lease has ended on this aircraft?.

It has indeed ended, BACF doing more of their own Dublin flights again. Other one to depart in the next few weeks.

[BAladdy]

Originally Posted by GLCYZ

If not ended yet it will be ending very soon, with delivery of G-LCAB imminent.

It’s gonna be a couple of weeks yet before G-LCAB will enter service. The aircraft was only flown from from CAN, where it has been stored, to WAW to undergo modification on Friday. The cabin will also be refurbished to the same standard as G-LCAA prior to entering service

Does anyone know if they are still planning to add another 2 E90’S to the fleet later this year?.

[GLCYZ]

Originally Posted by BAladdy

It’s gonna be a couple of weeks yet before G-LCAB will enter service. The aircraft was only flown from from CAN, where it has been stored, to WAW to undergo modification on Friday. The cabin will also be refurbished to the same standard as G-LCAA prior to entering service

Does anyone know if they are still planning to add another 2 E90’S to the fleet later this year?.

G-LCAB is planned to enter service on 22 July.

[BAladdy]

Originally Posted by GLCYZ

G-LCAB is planned to enter service on 22 July.

Are BACF still planning on adding 2 more E90’s later this year?. If they are, does anyone know if the aircraft will be ex China Southern?

[GLCYZ]

Changes to Winter 2019 services:

• Services will increase on Berlin (up to six additional per week), Glasgow (up to six additional per week), Florence (up to five additional per week), Edinburgh (up to four additional per week), and Dublin (up to six additional each week from 09 September)
• The winter seasonal service to Reykjavik (Keflavik) will not be resumed
• Geneva will reduce by eleven services down to six weekly, Malaga will reduce by four services to three weekly until January, and to two weekly from January, Rotterdam will reduce by two daily services to retain a five per day (weekdays) schedule and Zurich will reduce by five frequencies per week (from 09 September)

[BA318]

What do you mean? They are all BA Cityflyer flights.

[Fly757X]

Originally Posted by sinbad73

They're all BA mainline flights?

From LCY? Somehow I don't think you're right there.