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Old 9th Jul 2020, 12:01
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Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled
Surely not? Is that not a potential fatigue risk? That could become a serious pain in the arse for Crewing/Ops
This has come from Unite. Presumably something that came about from some management “grey sky thinking” - personally can’t see it as something to be seriously considered but who knows?
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 13:07
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Be careful how much you push back against BACF... Zoom has made many senior people in big corporates change their opinions on how people will work in the future.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 13:44
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The future for BACF, LCY and Canary Wharf will be challenging. I have read interviews with CEOs of large international companies stating that their company will give up up to a third of its office space and cut corporate travel by 50 per cent.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 13:48
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In the short term at least I think there will be a lot of reliance on premium leisure - this is certainly reflected in the July and August schedules.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 13:48
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
Be careful how much you push back against BACF... Zoom has made many senior people in big corporates change their opinions on how people will work in the future.
I work with a corporate and as some on here will know am a longstanding CityFlyer user.

Zoom, Teams, Skype for Business, GoToMeeting, High Five, Webex etc are an absolute last ditch step to stay in contact, which everyone will readily let go the moment they are able. As a current enforced daily user they are by no means all they are cracked up to be. Sales and new business opportunities just don't work well, and once your competitors start doing business travel again anyone hoping to do it just the on-line way will be left behind.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 14:05
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What are these taxis for? My crews used to stay in appropriate airport hotels and thus neither taxis nor public transport required.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 14:36
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Originally Posted by willy wombat
What are these taxis for? My crews used to stay in appropriate airport hotels and thus neither taxis nor public transport required.
I know that EDI based crews sometimes finish their day in GLA.....could be to do with that. When mainline BA had a GLA base they rountinely finished their days in EDI to be taxied back to their cars in GLA.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 14:39
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I know that EDI based crews sometimes finish their day in GLA.....could be to do with that. When mainline BA had a GLA base they rountinely finished their days in EDI to be taxied back to their cars in GLA.
They’re closing the EDI base so won’t be to do with that.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 14:41
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I understood that for BACF EDI and GLA were a single pool of crew.
And now, in normal times, there's a citylink coach from EDI to central Glasgow every 30 minutes.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 14:54
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Thought EDI base was up for closure?
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 17:10
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EDI base is indeed earmarked for closure with a high number of redundancies as a result.

As well as the GLA-EDI movements, they have quite a lot of weekend duties where LCY-based crews either position back into LHR on Friday/Saturday or position out of LHR on Sunday/Monday to start touring patterns through the BACF network. I dread to think how much that all costs. Last season's LCY-Ibiza Friday night was probably the crowning glory of expensive crew duties with a crew positioned down-route to take over from the crew incoming from LCY who then positioned back.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 12:15
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First Cityflyer departures from LCY for some months this morning, just the Mediterranean flights to Palma, Ibiza, Malaga and Florence. LCYK, N, O and X. Good to start seeing you all back.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 12:57
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Good loads on most departures this morning too, the first 4 (PMI, IBZ, AGP, FLR) With well over 70 pax, even the inbounds have fairly healthy loads given the circumstances, with the returning PMI having 2 in Club and 60 in Trav, and IBZ with 2-40.
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 16:34
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Closure of EDI base confirmed today.
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 19:43
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That is really sad news, a lot of friends at that base and happy memories .
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 08:29
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A bit bizarre that BACF are closing down crew ops in Edinburgh with all the years of strong history and deep financial connections between the capitals of Scotland and England, yet at the same time - and now, of all times - they are launching a Belfast based product with crew set-up to fly to LCY!??
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 08:31
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Originally Posted by OneBellEnd
A bit bizarre that BACF are closing down crew ops in Edinburgh with all the years of strong history and deep financial connections between the capitals of Scotland and England, yet at the same time - and now, of all times - they are launching a Belfast based product with crew set-up to fly to LCY!??
Belfast, like all CityFlyer routes going forward, will be operated by LCY based crew.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 08:31
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Originally Posted by OneBellEnd
A bit bizarre that BACF are closing down crew ops in Edinburgh with all the years of strong history and deep financial connections between the capitals of Scotland and England, yet at the same time - and now, of all times - they are launching a Belfast based product with crew set-up to fly to LCY!??
As far as I'm aware there has been no mention of a base at BHD. The frame will be night stopping.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 08:44
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Probably a bit more versatility and resilience in BHD...you mention finance yourself with EDI and there won’t be significant travel for those purposes any time soon. It was clear Flybe did rather well on it so not a surprise it’s being picked up. Plus Belfast may become more attractive for business next year if NI retains closer alignment with EU.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 08:45
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Originally Posted by Fly757X
As far as I'm aware there has been no mention of a base at BHD. The frame will be night stopping.
So they checked the Flybe passenger loads and called the Helga Lodge to see how much a room is for the night ( cheapest guest house in Belfast)
No need for suite at Culloden due to new terms and conditions ?
Call Katy and get VIP seats at Kingspan
There you go ... Sorted

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