BA Cityflyer-2

[Byrne11]

Random question.

Does anyone know the career progression from BA Cityflyer to mainline BA if a pilot wanted to change onto the mainline. Is it still 2-3 years or has that changed.

[EMB-145LR]

It’s by no means a sure fire thing. I believe you have to serve at least two years at CityFlyer. You then go through the full BA selection except for the day one screening which is the psychometric and written tests.

[Jamie2k9]

The weekly DUB-IBZ has been taken offline line last week. Not sure how it impacts on the rest of the weekend schedule the aircraft used to operate.

[Byrne11]

Originally Posted by EMB-145LR

It’s by no means a sure fire thing. I believe you have to serve at least two years at CityFlyer. You then go through the full BA selection except for the day one screening which is the psychometric and written tests.

I see. I thought once you got to Cityflyer you in essence side stepped the BA entrance. So, would I be correct in thinking a pilot coming from EZY with an A320 type rating would be in a better position in comparison to a Cityflyer pilot.

[cornishsimon]

That seems like a bit of a nonsense really from an outsiders point of view. I know IAG run BA and cityflyer as different airlines but geeee wiz

[Plane.Silly]

On one hand it does seem a bit of a farce, not 'promoting from within'. But at the same time, Cityflyer operate EMB's which the main BA fleet doesn't have. It would seem that an EZY A320 rated pilot would have more chance, being a type BA uses

[Byrne11]

That seems utterly farcical. I was under the impression, the 'promoting from within' is what occurred. It was one element that had me particularly interested In applying as well.

[monkey.tennis]

It’s actually even worse than that. You can’t even apply until you’ve completed 2 years at BACF and even if you get in, BACF will prevent you from moving across if they are short of crew at the time. At BACF you get a lot of the negatives of working for BA and very few of the positives. If your goal is to get into BA mainline then don’t apply to BACF.

[Byrne11]

Is this from experience or hearsay, Is there any positives to BACF?

I've heard they can be reluctant to let pilots move across, I don't know how they can prevent you.

[EMB-145LR]

They definitely kept Pilots back for a few months back in 2015.

[BAladdy]

BACF will add two additional E90 aircraft to there fleet over the next couple of months.

The first aircraft (G-LCYY) is being leased from Nordic Aviation Capital for a 4 year period and is expected to enter service on 01JAN18. This aircraft was previously operated by Azul (PP-PJL)

The second aircraft is expected a couple of months later.

This will mean that BACF will operate a fleet of 22 E-Jet aircraft starting S18.

[canberra97]

Are there any additional routes or schedules being added by BACF with the addition of these two E-Jets?

[LAX_LHR]

There are some additions at MAN.

[BAladdy]

Originally Posted by canberra97

Are there any additional routes or schedules being added by BACF with the addition of these two E-Jets?

The S18 schedule is currently being up dated. However when you compare the schedule that op for first week in AUG17 to the one loaded for S18 the following changes have already been made

Dublin

IBZ - 1 x Weekly Service that operated during S17, will not operate S18

London City

DUS - Will increase from 16 to 17 x Weekly
FLR - Will increase from 11 to 12 x Weekly
AGP - Saturday rotation added for S17 will not operate S18
GVA - Will op 10 x Weekly S18. Was dropped for S17 peak season.
PMI - Saturday rotation added for S17 will not operate S18
ORY - Did not op S17. Will op up to 18 x Weekly for S18
PRG - 6 x weekly service introduced for W17 will year round. 6 x weekly frequency continues S18.
RTM - Will increase from 17 to 21 x Weekly

London Stansted

FLR - Saturday service moves from a morning to afternoon departure. Remains 2 x Weekly on a E70
IBZ - Frequency reduced from 4 to 3 x Weekly. BA2334/BA2335 Rotation dropped.
NCE - Mid afternoon departure on a Saturday now showing as departing early morning. Remains Weekly on a E70
PMI - Frequency reduced from 2 to 1 x Weekly for S18

I have heard rumours (they are only rumours) that BACF are dropping there FLR-BHX service for next summer and replacing it with a MAN-FLR service. However this only rumour and BHX flights still showing as available to book for S18.

Further changes highly likely in coming weeks

[LAX_LHR]

For MAN:

Based aircraft increases to 3, with Mykonos, Palma, Malaga and Alicante going 2weekly. Weekly away based Florence is new. Have full timetable if anyone is interested.

[BAladdy]

Good to see some expansion planned at MAN next year. Any idea when they expect to but the additional frequencies?. I wonder if they will also increase the number of routes on offer from MAN.

Do you know if BACF are planning on increasing there ops at BRS or BHX?.

I am surprised with a large crew base in EDI that they aren’t adding any other routes from there.

[Lee J]

Originally Posted by LAX_LHR

For MAN:

Based aircraft increases to 3, with Mykonos, Palma, Malaga and Alicante going 2weekly. Weekly away based Florence is new. Have full timetable if anyone is interested.

Yes please, Malaga at least!

[pamann]

STN

With a couple of reductions of frequencies ex STN is there scope for anything new? I would have thought Mykonos (JMK) and/or Santorini (JTR) would fare well seeing as these are untapped markets from STN??

[LAX_LHR]

The full MAN schedule:

AC-1
Thu
BA7310 LCY 1940 MAN 2040
BA7315 MAN 2125 IBZ 0115+1
Fri
BA7316 IBZ 0155 MAN 0340
BA7317 MAN 0535 AGP 0935
BA7318 AGP 1020 MAN 1225
BA7319 MAN 1310 JMK 1910
BA7320 JMK 1955 MAN 2205
Sat:
BA7321 MAN 0550 ALC 0940
BA7322 ALC 1025 MAN 1220
BA7323 MAN 1305 NCE 1625
BA7324 NCE 1710 MAN 1835
BA7315 MAN 1915 IBZ 2320
Sun
BA7316 IBZ 0005 MAN 0150
BA7325 MAN 0555 PMI 0940
BA7326 PMI 1025 MAN 1210
BA7315 MAN 1250 IBZ 1640
BA7314 IBZ 1725 MAN 1910
BA7313 MAN 1955 LCY 2025


AC-2
Sat
BA7314 IBZ 1045 MAN 1230
BA7326 MAN 1320 PMI 1505*
BA7327 PMI 1550 MAN 1735*
Sun
BA7328 MAN 0535 FAO 0840*
BA7329 FAO 0920 MAN 1225*
BA7311 MAN 1320 LCY 1420

AC-3
Sat
BA7318 AGP 1250 MAN 1455
BA7319 MAN 1545 JMK 2145
BA7320 JMK 2230 MAN 0040
Sun
BA7321 MAN 0540 ALC 0930
BA7322 ALC 1025 MAN 1220
BA9329 MAN 1310 PMI 1455

AC-4
Sat
BA7332 FLR 1710 MAN 1845**
BA7331 MAN 1930 FLR2250**

*this May be subject to change as these flights were showing at one point but the next vanished again

**Im pretty sure this replaces the BHX-FLR flight as it may just be a coincidence but the timings are very similar, in fact pretty much the same barring the flying time difference, to the BHX one and was under the impression only one aircraft nightstopped at FLR, but of course a second aircraft may be introduced or a W pattern (but the aircraft does get back very late for a W pattern and I can’t see 2xFLR-LCY on Sunday given STN also has a sunday afternoon FLR.)

[Reversethrustset]

Are there any plans to open a crew base in BHX or MAN or are they crewed remotely from the current bases?