BA Cityflyer-2

[BAladdy]

Does anyone know why the E90 Leased from Stobart has not operated for BA since 20th December and it has been operating for BE from SEN since then. I thought the leased aircraft had been schedule to operate for BACF for through the Winter schedule

[cornishsimon]

Have CityFlyer reduced frequencies over the two week Christmas slow down?


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[inOban]

Of course. Little business traffic for over two weeks, and BA are in business.

[BAladdy]

BACF have made some changes to there S19 schedule from EDI and LCY over recently. Details shown below:

Edinburgh

Florence - Will increase to 2 x Weekly, with a flights added on a Saturday operate by a E90. Sunday flight will continue to be operated by a E70

Palma - Frequency remains weekly. Flights will move from operating on a Friday to a Saturday

London City

Milan Linate - 23 x Weekly service will be suspended from 27JUL-27OCT due to LIN runway closure
Milan Malpensa - NEW 11 x Weekly service will introduced from 28JUL.

BA7301 LCY 06:50 MXP 09:50 E90 x67
BA7305 LCY 16:15 MXP 19:10 E90 x6

​​​​​​​​​​​​​​BA7302 MXP 11:10 LCY 12:05 E90 x67
​​​​​​​​​​​​​​BA7306 MXP 19:55 LCY 20:50 E90 x6
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Mykonos - Frequency will increase to up to 6 x Weekly with a additional flights being added on a Thursday. Flights operate:

2 x Weekly (Mon/Fri) - 17MAY to 16JUN & 07SEP to 27SEP
5 x Weekly (Mon/Tue/Thu/Fri/Sun) 17JUN to 23JUN
6 x Weekly (Sun-Fri) 24JUN to 06SEP

Skiathos - Frequency will increase to 4 x weekly with a additional flights added on a Friday. Route operates 24JUN to 06SEP

Split - NEW 3 x Weekly seasonal service will operate 21JUN to 06SEP

BA7337 LCY 14:10 SPU 17:45 E90 5
BA7337 LCY 14:55 SPU 18:30 E90 14

BA7336 SPU 18:30 LCY 20:05 E90 5
BA7336 SPU 19:20 LCY 20:55 E90 14

[pamann]

BAladdy

Do you have the Stansted programme for this summer?

[WHBM]

BACF are certainly proactive in flexing schedules by the day, week, and holiday period to reflect differences in demand, their commercial team seem very good at predicting demand.

I remember the old VLM at London City used to just do the Antwerp flights with one aircraft, departing at 0800, 1100, 1400, 1700 and 2000, on all weekdays. While good for aircraft utilisation and simple to schedule, it in no way reflects demand which rises and falls on quite a different curve, and as a result there were some rotations regularly pretty empty both ways. Note VLM are no longer with us, BACF are.

[virginblue]

Originally Posted by WHBM

BACF are certainly proactive in flexing schedules by the day, week, and holiday period to reflect differences in demand, their commercial team seem very good at predicting demand.

I remember the old VLM at London City used to just do the Antwerp flights with one aircraft, departing at 0800, 1100, 1400, 1700 and 2000, on all weekdays. While good for aircraft utilisation and simple to schedule, it in no way reflects demand which rises and falls on quite a different curve, and as a result there were some rotations regularly pretty empty both ways. Note VLM are no longer with us, BACF are.

I think the comparison is a bit unfair. There is no way VLM could have done with their Fokker 50 what BACF is able to do with the EJets which can go to leisure destinations around the Med. VLM did try stuff that was practical with a Fokker 50, such as noon-time flights to JER and IOM, but realistically options to complement bread and butter business destinations from LCY with a turboprop were (and are) somewhat limited.

[BAladdy]

Originally Posted by pamann

BAladdy

Do you have the Stansted programme for this summer?

Destinations with frequency changes shown in Red

Stansted S19 Flights

Berlin - 1x weekly
Faro - 1 x weekly
Florence - Frequency reduced from 2 to 1 x weekly. Sunday rotation op S18 will not op S19
Ibiza - Frequency reduced to Weekly for S19. Flights op 3 x weekly ex IBZ and 2 x weekly ex STN S18
Malaga - Frequency increased from 1 to 2 x weekly. Additional rotation shown below in Blue

BA2293 STN 05:55 AGP 10:00 E90 7
BA2293 STN 16:25 AGP 20:25 E90 6

BA2336 AGP 14:25 STN 16:20 E90 6
BA2292 AGP 21:10 STN 23:05 E90 6

Nice - 1 x Weekly

[pamann]

Originally Posted by BAladdy

Destinations with frequency changes shown in Red

Stansted S19 Flights

Berlin - 1x weekly
Faro - 1 x weekly
Florence - Frequency reduced from 2 to 1 x weekly. Sunday rotation op S18 will not op S19
Ibiza - Frequency reduced to Weekly for S19. Flights op 3 x weekly ex IBZ and 2 x weekly ex STN S18
Malaga - Frequency increased from 1 to 2 x weekly. Additional rotation shown below in Blue

BA2293 STN 05:55 AGP 10:00 E90 7
BA2293 STN 16:25 AGP 20:25 E90 6

BA2336 AGP 14:25 STN 16:20 E90 6
BA2292 AGP 21:10 STN 23:05 E90 6

Nice - 1 x Weekly

Thanks for the update.

[BA318]

BA Cityflyer are dropping LCY-Paris Orly from the end of May. LCY now doesn't have a Paris service.

https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...qPBUDe7ejcLvi4

[BAladdy]

BACF are planning to use a RJ85 leased from Jota to operate flights from 1st April through to mid July. The aircraft will operate for BACF Monday to Thursday.

A second aircraft is to be leased from WDL for the month of May. The BAe146-200 will be mostly used on the ORY service.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...tions-in-2q19/

[BAladdy]

Originally Posted by BAladdy

Destinations with frequency changes shown in Red

Stansted S19 Flights

Berlin - 1x weekly
Faro - 1 x weekly
Florence - Frequency reduced from 2 to 1 x weekly. Sunday rotation op S18 will not op S19
Ibiza - Frequency reduced to Weekly for S19. Flights op 3 x weekly ex IBZ and 2 x weekly ex STN S18
Malaga - Frequency increased from 1 to 2 x weekly. Additional rotation shown below in Blue

BA2293 STN 05:55 AGP 10:00 E90 7
BA2293 STN 16:25 AGP 20:25 E90 6

BA2336 AGP 14:25 STN 16:20 E90 6
BA2292 AGP 21:10 STN 23:05 E90 6

Nice - 1 x Weekly

Faro - 1 x weekly service will not operate for a 4 week period from 23JUN to 14JUL inclusive.
Mykonos - Weekly service added for S19.
Nice - Weekly service planned for S19 will no longer operate
Palma - 1 x weekly service will not operate 22JUN to 13JUL inclusive

[BAladdy]

According to the website Jethro’s fleet listing, BACF have acquired 2 secondhand E190’s from China Southern. The aircraft are approx 7 years old and will be registered G-LCAA and G-LCAB.

BA Cityflyer Fleet List

Does anyone have any info if they are being leased by BACF or have the been bought?. When are the aircraft expected to enter service with BACF?.

[Alteagod]

That will be for the BHD flights

[Fly757X]

Originally Posted by Alteagod

That will be for the BHD flights

BACF at BHD? Haven't heard anything about that...

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by Fly757X

BACF at BHD? Haven't heard anything about that...

Probably only happen if Flybe pulled their LCY route.

[SealinkBF]

Originally Posted by PDXCWL45

Probably only happen if Flybe pulled their LCY route.

BA might be smelling blood. Hopefully BHD LCY is profitable but I doubt if it's a core route for Flybe's new owners.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by SealinkBF

BA might be smelling blood. Hopefully BHD LCY is profitable but I doubt if it's a core route for Flybe's new owners.

Their whole LCY network might be chopped imo. They are going to have to find room for flights to CWL and DSA and Virgin might want more of focus on LHR so it will be interesting to see if they continue to fly into LCY in the future.

[Wycombe]

Probably only happen if Flybe pulled their LCY route

BHD-LCY is a high-frequency route (6 rotations tomorrow, for example) so could be room for 2 operators if BE have to reduce.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by Wycombe

BHD-LCY is a high-frequency route (6 rotations tomorrow, for example) so could be room for 2 operators if BE have to reduce.

I am surprised that BA don't already operate it from LCY considering they operate most of the main domestic routes already from there.