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Old 6th Sep 2019, 10:39
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BA CityFlyer cabin crew have rejected the 2019 pay offer 84% versus 16%.

On offer was an increase of 2.6% for main crew and 3% for CSMs (basic pay and allowances), plus 3.5% increase in flight duty pay (amounting to a boost of 10p an hour).
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Old 10th Sep 2019, 22:07
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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...rofits-460758/

BA CityFlyer made profits of £42million last year.
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Old 11th Sep 2019, 09:15
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Are the six E170s more or less allocated to a few specific destinations or do they freely roam across the network, e.g. by operating off-peak flights on routes otherwise served with the larger E90s and peak-time flights on low-frequency, thinner routes?
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Old 11th Sep 2019, 12:10
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Virgin blue FR24 is your friend , Enter the six registrations in the search and it will tell you where they have been in the few days even on the free version

Primary routes are
Amsterdam Dublin Zurich Edinburgh Glasgow Frankfurt Prague DŁsseldorf Florence Rotterdam

Secondary routes are
Nice Quimper Bergerac

They have also been to Palma

All in the last two months
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Old 31st Oct 2019, 09:54
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As IAG group-wide procurement of next generation regional jets is taking longer than expected, in 2020 the E170s are planned to be sold and replaced by leased E190s. A preferred buyer for the 170s has been selected and a preferred lessor for the 190s. No word on whether the 190s will be new or second hand but Iíd imagine the latter.
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Old 31st Oct 2019, 11:33
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Will be interesting to see who will take on the E170s - it is not exactly a sought after type. Disregarding Japanese carrier J-Air that has added 3 or 4 new-builts over the last couple of years, the last new built Embraer 170 was delivered in 2013 in 2013 to Airnorth after delivieries had started to trickle after 2009. Quite a few are now stored or have already been scrapped.

What I am, however, more interested in is whether the destinations mainly served with E170 (and not just off-peak) will survive after an upgrade to E190s - I guess DUS will be relatively safe as BACF can now lure ex Flybe customers onboard. Not sure about a place like RTM which is, IIRC, also a " mainly E170 destination".
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Old 31st Oct 2019, 12:40
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Originally Posted by virginblue View Post
Will be interesting to see who will take on the E170s - it is not exactly a sought after type. Disregarding Japanese carrier J-Air that has added 3 or 4 new-builts over the last couple of years, the last new built Embraer 170 was delivered in 2013 in 2013 to Airnorth after delivieries had started to trickle after 2009. Quite a few are now stored or have already been scrapped.

What I am, however, more interested in is whether the destinations mainly served with E170 (and not just off-peak) will survive after an upgrade to E190s - I guess DUS will be relatively safe as BACF can now lure ex Flybe customers onboard. Not sure about a place like RTM which is, IIRC, also a " mainly E170 destination".
Actually RTM is mostly 190s. I doubt itíll have any effect on destinations as most 170s go out pretty much full so a 190 is unlikely to be oversized for the mission.
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Old 31st Oct 2019, 14:02
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Originally Posted by GLCYZ View Post


Actually RTM is mostly 190s. I doubt itíll have any effect on destinations as most 170s go out pretty much full so a 190 is unlikely to be oversized for the mission.
I imagine the cost difference between the E170 and E190 is fairly marginal. The crew complement is the same for both aircraft, so its fuel and airways costs. I imagine these are very small compared to the additional revenue that could be got from 22 additional seats on each flight.
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Old 31st Oct 2019, 15:11
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So why did BACF buy a number of E170 in the first place - this at a time when it was already selling poorly and thus probably not a brilliant hardware investment? Or are they leased?
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Old 31st Oct 2019, 19:31
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Itís a good question. I donít think the E190 was certified at the time of the BA order, which was for just 11 aircraft. I think the 190 has proven to be less restricted than the initial figures suggested. I seem to recall MAD being a destination that was thought to be outside the 190s abilities. When they were ordered thoughts of the Greek Islands were fanciful.
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Old 17th Jan 2020, 19:21
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Looks like AB is diverting to MAN enroute DUB-LCY due to Fire/Smoke incident
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 19:41
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CF ending ops for a period of 2 weeks. Back online April 4th.
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 20:55
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Hardly surprising. But 2 weeks is nothing compared to some of the others.
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 20:58
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Looks like the Loganair operated IOM flights on as normal despite the above?
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 21:32
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Originally Posted by JSCL View Post
Looks like the Loganair operated IOM flights on as normal despite the above?
Maybe, but looks like they have their own metal (LCYZ) in it at the moment, currently inbound to LCY so donít know if Loganair have taken their ATR back or what.
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 21:41
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Maybe, but looks like they have their own metal (LCYZ) in it at the moment, currently inbound to LCY so donít know if Loganair have taken their ATR back or what.
Two earlier City flights were cancelled, so assume thereís a problem somewhere with LM and BA sent their own metal.
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 09:29
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Two earlier City flights were cancelled, so assume thereís a problem somewhere with LM and BA sent their own metal.
The ATR went tech, yet again.
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Old 14th May 2020, 21:34
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BACF is proposing to close the EDI crew base with loss of 72 pilots. https://www.balpa.org/Media-Centre/P...-the-Chancello

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Old 14th May 2020, 21:42
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Also proposing the loss of 64 cabin crew, changes to scheduling agreements and loss of roster change, disruption and dead head payments.
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Old 15th May 2020, 06:51
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The new normal. Just as Ts and Cs in airlines were getting somewhere, Covid gives an excuse to put them back to 'if you do not like it f^uck off' days. A quote from a chief pilot of an airline i used to work for.

BACF especially out of LCY is a great product with great crews.

I am only guessing that there is a group of clueless people in BA, wandering the halls, thinking they are the masters of management, saying we can get £x on the bottom line by reducing the terms and conditions for pilots as they have nowhere to go. Good luck with that strategy as they will repay you in kind when the chance arises.

Short term thinking, long term failure.




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