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Old 9th Jan 2018, 09:58
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NaaH! They'll just extend the pig farm ....
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Old 9th Jan 2018, 13:05
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Must admit that was my fear a few years ago, but I can't see DSA ending up like Sheffield City given the investment, the growth of the nearby iPort, the publicly-funded link road, the new Amazon base, the planned business park, new freight facilities etc. I'm sure there will still be an airport there in 10-15 years time, even if passenger operations are scaled back. Even if the tonnage shifted is still very small compared to eg EMA, DSA is indeed well situated for freight and logistics
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Old 12th Jan 2018, 08:10
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I'm thrilled the airport is doing better at freight, it just needs a few more passenger routes, especially in winter season, keep the routes and the airport will be around for many more years to come.

The one thing that still gets me is the lack of knowledge from locals that we have an airport and where the airlines fly to. Its still not good enough.
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Old 15th Jan 2018, 13:20
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The proposed Vulcan hangar and visitor centre now has planning permission.

Still waiting on confirmation of plans from UoS on the AMRC proposed maintenance hangar.

Final phase of the link road is nearly complete, however no idea if the Carillon fiasco will affect its completion.
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 12:22
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Reference the final piece of the link road the council has commented as below.

Peter Dale, the council’s director of regeneration and environment, said: ‘The scheme is at an advanced stage of delivery and is due for completion in April 2018.

‘We are currently working with Carillion staff and the receiver PricewaterhouseCooopers who are seeking to move forward and honour existing contracts. We are also working with Tarmac to look at contingency plans if Carillion are unable to continue with the work.

‘As such, we are hopeful that the project can continue with minimal impact.’
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Old 18th Jan 2018, 10:03
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Credit to the eysource.

Withdrawn Etihad A340-600 A6-EHJ positioned Abu Dhabi – Bournemouth this morning (17/01) as EY9013 where it will be taken up by 2Excel Aviation.

Interesting to watch 2Excel's operations evolve, as the recently acquired 737 has been at DSA. Presumably the A340 will be based at STN also, but will move around the bases.
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 12:47
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The Sheffield Star conducted an interview with Mr Gill yesterday and there was mention of a really big announcement coming at the end of March.

Sounds interesting.
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 08:40
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Lets hope its further passenger flights and routes that will stay and not be axed.
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 17:20
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Thought the big announcement was the new master plan?
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Old 11th Mar 2018, 15:45
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Anyone managed to suss out if the 2018/19 Flybe winter schedule entails less routes or frequencies at DSA?

PAX figures are always very late but so far we're seeing a slight fall in PAX this winter when compared to last winter, presumably due to marginally fewer routes
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Old 11th Mar 2018, 16:24
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DSA - Flybe winter 2018/19 schedule is as follows.

Alicante = 2x weekly, Tue & Sat (Extra flight on Thu over Christmas/New Years period)
Amsterdam = Daily
Belfast City = 4x weekly, Mon Thu Fri & Sun (Several extra flights over Christmas/New Years Period)
Dublin = 3x weekly, Mon Fri & Sun
Jersey = 2x weekly, Wed & Sat
Paris = 2x weekly, Mon & Fri

Monday
BE4471 = DSA 06:50 – DUB 08:00 / BE4472 = DUB 08:35 – DSA 09:40
BE4403 = DSA 10:10 – CDG 12:45 / BE4404 = CDG 13:35 – DSA 14:10
BE4415 = DSA 14:50 – AMS 17:00 / BE4416 = AMS 18:00 – DSA 18:10
BE4483 = DSA 18:40 – BHD 19:35 / BE4484 = BHD 20:05 – DSA 20:55
Tuesday
BE4431 = DSA 07:35 - ALC 11:25 / BE4432 = ALC 12:05 – DSA 14:00
BE4415 = DSA 14:50 – AMS 17:00 / BE4416 = AMS 18:00 – DSA 18:10
Wednesday
BE4447 = DSA 10:30 – JER 11:50 / BE4448 = JER 12:20 – DSA 13:35
BE4415 = DSA 14:50 – AMS 17:00 / BE4416 = AMS 18:00 – DSA 18:10
Thursday
BE4415 = DSA 11:00 – AMS 13:10 / BE4416 = AMS 13:55 – DSA 14:05
BE4483 = DSA 14:55 – BHD 15:50 / BE4484 = BHD 16:20 – DSA 17:10
Friday
BE4471 = DSA 06:50 – DUB 08:00 / BE4472 = DUB 08:35 – DSA 09:40
BE4403 = DSA 10:10 – CDG 12:45 / BE4404 = CDG 13:35 – DSA 14:10
BE4415 = DSA 14:50 – AMS 17:00 / BE4416 = AMS 18:00 – DSA 18:10
BE4483 = DSA 18:40 – BHD 19:35 / BE4484 = BHD 20:05 – DSA 20:55
Saturday
BE4431 = DSA 07:35 - ALC 11:25 / BE4432 = ALC 12:05 – DSA 14:00
BE4447 = DSA 14:45 – JER 16:05 / BE4448 = JER 16:35 – DSA 17:50
BE4415 = DSA 18:20 – AMS 20:30 / BE4416 = AMS 21:20 – DSA 21:30
Sunday
BE4483 = DSA 12:00 – BHD 12:25 / BE4484 = BHD 13:25 – DSA 14:15
BE4415 = DSA 14:55 – AMS 17:05 / BE4416 = AMS 17:40 – DSA 17:50
BE4471 = DSA 18:40 – DUB 19:50 / BE4472 = DUB 20:30 – DSA 21:35
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Old 11th Mar 2018, 16:50
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Not one viable business route then... morning out/evening in
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Old 11th Mar 2018, 18:27
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Still room in the schedule for a few more flights. It's around the same as last year.

In other news there are now three scheduled cargo flights (1 x 747, 2 x MD11).
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Old 11th Mar 2018, 20:16
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Not one viable business route then... morning out/evening in
Did you know that less than 10% of people travel out and back for business in one day? Depends what your definition of a "viable business route" is. At the moment if you want to travel from the Doncaster region to AMS you have to go to EMA or MAN. Who wants to do a day trip where you have to add at least an hours commute to each end before you even start your flying? Much better to have a days work, travel in the afternoon, meet your client for an evening meal, have a good nights sleep in a hotel and then have your business meeting the next day don't you think?
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Old 11th Mar 2018, 20:41
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Tartin totally agree.
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Old 12th Mar 2018, 08:34
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Isn't that the point of using regional airports --- quick in and out, without need of lengthy commutes, making day trips a reality?
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Old 12th Mar 2018, 09:17
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I'm just glad we have retained Flybe for another winter, it will be interesting to see how Wizz do over the up coming year and whether any further routes will get the chop.

If we could just get a Jet2 based aircraft operating routes or the return of Ryan Air or Easyjet, that would help the pax figures.

The TUI flight to Egypt should also help this next winter season.
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Old 12th Mar 2018, 10:34
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Originally Posted by TOM1747 View Post
If we could just get a Jet2 based aircraft operating routes or the return of Ryan Air or Easyjet, that would help the pax figures.
Most likely at the expense of DSA's current airlines routes or bases altogether...

Before we see other airlines entering the market or ultimately basing aircraft at DSA, you should ideally want to see the current serving airlines to either base additional aircraft and/or expand their route networks. This will bolster their own positions at DSA making it more sustainable for if demand increased and other airlines eventually arrive in the future.

I don't see the big fuss about the constant want for Jet2 at DSA? Their current way of working wouldn't warrant a single based aircraft and (being realistc) particularly at the moment i don't see demand for any more than that from them ( with my above comment in mind). Especially with their other larger bases of EMA, LBA and MAN all being relatively close by. I understand business models can change and they may indeed find a way of making it financially viable to set up a 1x aircraft base initially as a niche market from DSA, but for now it would be an oddball in the network.

On the flip side, Thomas Cook Airlines could probably better sustain a summer only single based aircraft at DSA. Their business model better fits such an operation and they have better flexibility with their aircraft throughout the seasons to make that possible. The package holiday market is an area where DSA excels at too. Whilst it would be some competition, particularly for TUI, it wouldn't be as aggressive as a large base set up from a low-fares carrier and they often focus on different segments of the charter market too.

As for Ryanair basing, well that would most likely mark the end of Flybe at DSA - in its current form anyway - and would most probably impact on the Wizzair network as well. Operating a select few services on a W-pattern could work again. However, i would suspect these would most likely be the usual summer sun routes - again effecting current serving airlines performance.

Choice for the consumer is great, BUT only when it can be done sustainably.
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Old 12th Mar 2018, 13:21
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The last thing DSA needs is bloody Ryanair! Their presence there before, I'm sure, quashed interest from other airlines. As Cazza fly said, it would most likely mean the end of Flybe there.

Let's hope Ryanair stay the hell away!
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 09:25
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The problem with DSA is that it is heavily reliant on Wizz. It makes up for over half the passengers.

They are clearly intent on scaling back their operation to DSA, judging by the routes cut and the significant frequency cuts on the routes that remain.

Then you have Flybe, who have scaled back since they first started, and it remains to be seen whether DSA is anything more than a dumping ground for their Embraers.

TUI are the only ones who seem 100% committed.

As pointed out earlier, I only see a future in freight, with maybe the odd token passenger flight.
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