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Old 7th Jun 2018, 21:47
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Originally Posted by Groundloop View Post
You clearly stated "there IS demand" - for which you have now admitted you have no evidence. If you were just making conversation perhaps you should have worded it as "there COULD be demand". Call me old-fashioned (well, actually, I am old fashioned) but there is too much these days of opinions being presented as fact - particularly on-line.
May I ask with humble respect but are you an expert on demand on the Doncaster area?.
Do you live around there , speak t time talking to locals ?.
Only I know own I have , and many destinations are in demand as some I think but an not sure are or were served .
The point is when served They were very well used , considering poor timings .
Doncaster has had airlines in but does not seem to be able to get together a schedule, that would create ' official ' demand .
But I can swear on the Bible , I've spoken to many before I had to give up work , often working in offices all around the Airport .
It's a favourite local topic, " I wish I could fly to here or there " .
And I've had people complain about anywhere from Athens to Sydney .
The latter I explained is virtually a never category . ( In my humble opinion ).
But the fact is if there was no demand there would not be an airport .
So nitpicking the OP on his choice of exact words , when this is supposed to be a friendly forum , a mix of expert and enthusiast alike , then, the odd slip of the tounge so to speak is just that .
I just feel people get jumped on for suggesting anything on here .
The best case in point was the veciferious flaming of people who would say that one day Flybe , would base an aircraft or two .
It was met with ridicule and posts like this.
I never noted posts apologising when Flybe did just that!.
Budapest is often asked for , Doncaster and region has a strong Hungarian population.
As for the med , I find it odd that there is no demand for more med flights especially through the winter.
Ps I mean no offense , just seems unfair to nitpick someone taking the time to post their opinion , fact or no fact .
Perhaps now as your an expert you can list exactly what routes are in demand and back it up with figures please ?
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Old 14th Jun 2018, 20:52
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EasyJet RABA HubLAB conference

Given easyJet’s conference contribution at RABA HubLAB (Heathrow regional connectivity) what’s the real chance of EasyJet’s return to DSA?
it would appear Easy are the only uk airline that could base at DSA without diluting regional catchment capacity (FR/LS both have big presence at LBA & EMA). A replication of Easy’s SEN routes would be a massive boost for DSA, yes it would antagonise BE for the low frequency sun routes ALC/AGP/PMI/FAO but don’t those routes have limited life without the E195’s and Peels BE ‘Support’


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Old 15th Jun 2018, 10:44
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Any more info on what was said by Easyjet execs at RABA NubLAB? I could see EasyJet moving in if Flybe moved out, but haven't Flybe got a propriatory agreement with DSA?

Phase 2 of the link road opened today, sorry no news story as yet

EDIT Presser here - http://flydsa.co.uk/latest-news/grea...road-completed

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Old 19th Jun 2018, 13:22
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According to the press release they have constructed a cycle path to the airport
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Old 8th Jul 2018, 20:44
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Frustration

When is DSA going to get serious about attracting new/old carriers.
Landed at LBA yesterday with several families from DSA catchment, all saying wish we could fly from DSA.
Makes you wonder what the business development people are actually doing, other than sucking up to TUI and BE who are obviously on some kind of big payback, but stifing any kind of new growth, and are most probably being entertained to maintain their presence. Time for a shake up and implementation of some aspirational ambition from Peel to move forward not just with the incumbents but Easy, Ryanair and KLM. You’ve got a great Airport, now you have great access with the new extended link road, but give people some reason to use it, instead of of it being a road to nowhere ( or a very restricted somewhere).
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Old 9th Jul 2018, 07:52
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Who says they aren't? Who could seriously come in?

The likes of EasyJet and Ryanair aren't going to come in anytime soon. Maybe Vueling to Barcelona, Thomas Cook to part base or base, Blue Air to copy the LPL format, Norwegian to go over the pond with a 737 or even the long wanted KLM connection.

Other than that it is hard to see anyone wanting to dilute other bases. With the cargo gains maybe that is the way forward for now.
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Old 13th Jul 2018, 20:59
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As a DSA local I'd hate to see Ryanair or Easyjet there, they scare everyone else off. Any of the others listed above would be great, especially transatlantic ops.
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Old 14th Jul 2018, 07:10
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Quite agree. Perhaps the odd BCN/GRO, but that’s all.
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Old 14th Jul 2018, 18:47
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Air travel is a retail commodity,the more products (destinations) & brands (airline choice) you sell and are available (seats, frequency),the more custom you will get,limit brands and you will reduce product offered, and availability and therefore limit the footfall - unless what you sell is unique and cheap.
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Old 15th Jul 2018, 05:42
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Originally Posted by G-FORZ View Post
Air travel is a retail commodity,the more products (destinations) & brands (airline choice) you sell and are available (seats, frequency),the more custom you will get,limit brands and you will reduce product offered, and availability and therefore limit the footfall - unless what you sell is unique and cheap.
But how do you get the brands to make their products available when supply is limited?
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Old 15th Jul 2018, 15:07
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
But how do you get the brands to make their products available when supply is limited?
My post was in repose to an earlier post suggesting Ryanair and EasyJet would be bad for DSA. The point I was attempting to make was that DSA needs as many brands as possible to be considered a contender for consumer choice. All the best airports have multiple carriers offering similar if not the same routes, but the competition stimulates growth. How are the brands attracted - firstly by offering exactly the same concessions to them as the incumbents. From the outside it appears rightly or wrongly TUI and BE are being protected from competition by Peel in exchange for their commitment to the airport, but this in turn is stifling and prospective growth with new/old carriers. A KLM 2 daily AMS (like at DTV!!! ) would wipe the floor with BE - what’s more Peel know Ryanair can co exist with Easy from their experiences at LPL.

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Old 15th Jul 2018, 15:13
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Originally Posted by G-FORZ View Post


My post was in repose to an earlier post suggesting Ryanair and EasyJet would be bad for DSA. The point I was attempting to make was that DSA needs as many brands as possible to be considered a contender for consumer choice. All the best airports have multiple carriers offering similar if not the same routes, but the competition stimulates growth. How are the brands attracted - firstly by offering exactly the same concessions to them as the incumbents. From the outside it appears rightly or wrongly TUI and BE are being protected from competition by Peel in exchange for their commitment to the airport, but this in turn is stifling and prospective growth with new/old carriers. A KLM 2 daily AMS (like at DTV!!! ) would wipe the floor with BE - what’s more Peel know Ryanair can co exist with Easy from their experiences at LPL.

That's assuming said carriers are actually interested in DSA or may feel ir would drain away passengers from there other airports. And KLM would be targeting different types of passengers to Flybe
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Old 21st Jul 2018, 16:36
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Flybe now showing flights up to mid June 2019 for the following.

Amsterdam - Daily
Alicante - 3xweekly
Belfast City - 6xweekly
Dublin - Daily
Jersey - Daily
Paris (CDG) - 2xweekly
Faro - 2xweekly
Malaga - 2xweekly
Newquay - 3xweekly
Palma not showing as yet however was added later previously.

A further phase with new schedule enhancements is expected to be announced in the coming weeks. I wonder due to new deliveries, if there will be a shared aircraft with Cardiff to gain a little expansion. Against what the naysayers expected
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Old 21st Jul 2018, 16:54
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Originally Posted by egcntristar View Post
Flybe now showing flights up to mid June 2019 for the following.

Amsterdam - Daily
Alicante - 3xweekly
Belfast City - 6xweekly
Dublin - Daily
Jersey - Daily
Paris (CDG) - 2xweekly
Faro - 2xweekly
Malaga - 2xweekly
Newquay - 3xweekly
Palma not showing as yet however was added later previously.

A further phase with new schedule enhancements is expected to be announced in the coming weeks. I wonder due to new deliveries, if there will be a shared aircraft with Cardiff to gain a little expansion. Against what the naysayers expected
With Cardiff they mentioned a 4th aircraft and mentioned Spain if they do then PMI on a W pattern could be possible and i wonder if they could be tempted to do something similar like they operate with Exeter and Norwich? So CWL-PMI-DSA-CWL then CWL-DSA-PMI-CWL. It would give both airports a new domestic route and provide revenue on what would normally be empty sectors .
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Old 5th Aug 2018, 20:45
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New Route

According to facebook page new route announcement tomorrow, any gossip?

Would love to think new carrier but "route" would suggest BE winter route re introduction
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Old 5th Aug 2018, 21:58
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Originally Posted by G-FORZ View Post
According to facebook page new route announcement tomorrow, any gossip?

Would love to think new carrier but "route" would suggest BE winter route re introduction
Or TUI launching Cancun? They did lauch Orlando and Cancun is popular.
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 09:35
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Looks like its Wizz - to Budapest.
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 09:56
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Originally Posted by toledoashley View Post
Looks like its Wizz - to Budapest.
3 x weekly MWF starting 29 Oct, more convenient departure times than other Wizz flights.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 19:45
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The Childrens Air Ambulance have plans for a new hangar to be built later the year to be situated alongside Hangar 3.

There are also plans for a larger hangar opposite Hangar 3, on the other side of the freight apron, to be large enough to hold two B 767s...

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Old 29th Aug 2018, 18:25
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Loads of Ryanair planes taking off and landing this week apparently. Presume it's pilot training.
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