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Old 5th May 2020, 09:21
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It looks as though Stobart Air are looking at opening a base on the Isle of Man (presumably when this blows over).

They would be familiar with IOM after being based their twice for Flybe. The LPL and MAN routes are presumably worth their while. Although it appears Loganair currentt have a 145 and an ATR42 based there at present. Turf war?

https://m.independent.ie/business/ir...-39181134.html
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Old 5th May 2020, 10:31
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Originally Posted by Jenny Tails View Post
It looks as though Stobart Air are looking at opening a base on the Isle of Man (presumably when this blows over).

They would be familiar with IOM after being based their twice for Flybe. The LPL and MAN routes are presumably worth their while. Although it appears Loganair currentt have a 145 and an ATR42 based there at present. Turf war?

https://m.independent.ie/business/ir...-39181134.html
The ATR is there on-behalf of BACF. Could this new base be used for a franchise agreement between RE/LM? I could very well see it myself.
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Old 5th May 2020, 10:37
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The ATR is there on-behalf of BACF. Could this new base be used for a franchise agreement between RE/LM? I could very well see it myself.
I don't see LM getting in to bed with Stobart. Utilising their own fleet is going to be their biggest upcoming problem, let alone using someone elses.
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Old 5th May 2020, 15:13
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Originally Posted by Jenny Tails View Post
It looks as though Stobart Air are looking at opening a base on the Isle of Man (presumably when this blows over).

They would be familiar with IOM after being based their twice for Flybe. The LPL and MAN routes are presumably worth their while. Although it appears Loganair currentt have a 145 and an ATR42 based there at present. Turf war?

https://m.independent.ie/business/ir...-39181134.html
Unless Stobart have a crystal ball and and have a psycic on the board of directors then I donít understand where this has come from. They have no systems, they have ventured to the Isle of Man before, yes under flybe, so understand the operation. But the IOM government had them before COVID19 ready to operate flights and subsequently LPL/MAN went to Loganair. So Iím perplexed as to what they see, unless LM are pulling out.

my understanding is that Manchester route isnít a Ďtempí fix.
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Old 5th May 2020, 17:16
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Originally Posted by flyerguy View Post
Unless Stobart have a crystal ball and and have a psycic on the board of directors then I donít understand where this has come from. They have no systems, they have ventured to the Isle of Man before, yes under flybe, so understand the operation. But the IOM government had them before COVID19 ready to operate flights and subsequently LPL/MAN went to Loganair. So Iím perplexed as to what they see, unless LM are pulling out.

my understanding is that Manchester route isnít a Ďtempí fix.
I have checked on the loganair website I see that last flight is on the 5th July from Isle of Man to Liverpool and Manchester
Also see that Easyjet dropped from flying once a day to flying twice a week from Belfast to Isle of Man from 1st June
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I have checked on the loganair website I see that last flight is on the 5th July from Isle of Man to Liverpool and Manchester
Also see that Easyjet dropped from flying once a day to flying twice a week from Belfast to Isle of Man from 1st June
The Liverpool route keeps getting extensions, and EZY BFS was never Daily was only ever 2/3 weekly...
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Old 8th May 2020, 13:04
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IAG not giving any committments...

https://m.independent.ie/business/ir...-39189863.html
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Old 8th May 2020, 13:49
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What you might expect from a business leader in the current market
Crisis = Opportunity
Effectively he has put a shot across the bows of both Stobart and LCY to be prepared to "sharpen their pencils" on costs.
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Old 8th May 2020, 14:26
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Or simply change the remit or BA Cityflyer to IAG Cityflyer and bring the EI regional operation back in house


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Old 14th May 2020, 13:19
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JT you mention that Stobart are planning an IOM base post this current crisis. I am hearing that they are also planning a significant base at BHD when the current crisis is over with costs being covered by local government. Anyone else picking this up?
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They might well need a UK AOC at the end of the year.
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Old 14th May 2020, 14:25
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Originally Posted by shoe shine View Post
JT you mention that Stobart are planning an IOM base post this current crisis. I am hearing that they are also planning a significant base at BHD when the current crisis is over with costs being covered by local government. Anyone else picking this up?
​​​I have seen this here about opening a base on IOM and Belfast City Https://independent.ie/business/iris...-39181134.html

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AER Lingus Regional operator Stobart Air is considering adding a new base in the Isle of Man, but the Dublin-based carrier has been told by Aer Lingus that it won't support any such move, the Irish Independent understands.

That would leave struggling Stobart Air having to deploy a new, separate booking engine for the new services.

Stobart Air and its Stobart Group owner have tapped the Isle of Man government for support, it's believed.

The carrier is also understood to be eyeing up a possible base in Belfast.

Stobart Air operates the Aer Lingus Regional service under a franchise agreement. The current contract expires at the end of 2022.

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Old 14th May 2020, 15:32
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Originally Posted by allan1987 View Post
​​​I have seen this here about opening a base on IOM and Belfast City Https://independent.ie/business/iris...-39181134.html

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Old news I'm afraid. Already posted above on 5th May.
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Old 14th May 2020, 15:34
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Don't see any mention about Belfast City either, unless its hidden behind the subscription part of the article?
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Old 14th May 2020, 16:20
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I think the following quote from Walsh on CH Aviation says it all ďWe have had a good relationship with them, but they got distracted by faraway hills,Ē

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...-regional-deal

So possibly Stobart are looking for other avenues to pursue should they loose the EI contract

But think realistically, which airline would sign a contract with them... LM have enough on there plate to deal with. That leaves Eastern, but we again I donít see them rapidly expanding through Stobart?

Should EI not renew the contract, Stobart would most likely have to go alone.
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Old 28th May 2020, 19:46
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ATR 72-600 EI-GPN departed IOM to DUB today as SXI2025

I guess the 3 ATR 72-600 leased from Flybe from Chorus Aviation have been transferred to Stobart Air
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Old 10th Jun 2020, 10:50
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14th July according to here: Irish Times
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Old 12th Jun 2020, 18:41
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 08:07
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2 Embraers being returned to the lessors and the latest 2 AT7s. (EI-GPN,GPO, GHK, GHK). If reported earlier on this thread, please ignore...

EI are not restarting DUB LCY (well not now anyway), the possibility of a Stobart Embraer on the route clearly wasn't an option, and clearly now won't be...
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 08:22
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It's interesting times for Stobart. I know they're very much at the fore and going up against Loganair in negotiations with the IOM airport to start ops, how they're going to handle that though I have no clue. They're going to have to drastically re-shape their business model to do that.
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