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Old 26th Aug 2020, 18:19
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New Route Belfast to East Midlands: Leicester Mercury
This along with five other routes was announced weeks ago.
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Talks on the sale of Stobart Air begin

https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk...us-928344.html
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CityJet owner Falko in talks to acquire Stobart Air
The Stobart Group plans sale of the Aer Lingus Regional operator

The UK's Stobart Group is in advanced talks to sell its Dublin-based Stobart Air unit, which operates the Aer Lingus Regional service, to aircraft lessor Falko, the Irish Independent has learned.

It's believed that the deal could ultimately be worth more than €20m.
https://amp.independent.ie/business/...-39502051.html

Looks like could be CityJet, Stobart Air and Air Nostrum all in one Regional Airline Group
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How many more rolls of the dice for most of those?

"Regional Airline Group" sounds rather grandiose...The impression with Stobart Air is that it is a fire sale/required sale for the Stobart Group to relieve itself of debt that has accrued with it`s miscalculations in the Airport & Airline divisions over the period.

A deal would be dependent on Stobart Air retaining the EIN franchise of course & perhaps IAG/EIN will push for an even tougher deal themselves now.
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Originally Posted by southside bobby
How many more rolls of the dice for most of those?

"Regional Airline Group" sounds rather grandiose...The impression with Stobart Air is that it is a fire sale/required sale for the Stobart Group to relieve itself of debt that has accrued with it`s miscalculations in the Airport & Airline divisions over the period.

A deal would be dependent on Stobart Air retaining the EIN franchise of course & perhaps IAG/EIN will push for an even tougher deal themselves now.
It depends if the CityJet Air Nostrum merger still goes ahead.
Seeing that Stobart Group need money it will a quick sale
And there is more than just one company interested
in buying Stobart Air.
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Can somebody explain to me why anyone would want to buy a small regional ACMI airline without any substantive public-facing brand right now when air travel demand is unlikely to return to 2019 levels for at least a few years
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It isn't so much that Stobart Group urgently need the cash from selling Stobart Air as that situation has eased following the recent shareholder fundraising exercise. The problem is that the past Propius fleet sale and leaseback deal left the Group with a future substantial potential financial liability - that's why they bought Stobart Air back from the Connect Administrators. That aspect will need to be passed on to Falko for the deal to go ahead.
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
Can somebody explain to me why anyone would want to buy a small regional ACMI airline without any substantive public-facing brand right now when air travel demand is unlikely to return to 2019 levels for at least a few years
Yes indeed, I’m struggling to understand that myself!
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Stobart raised £100m from "investors" in June to shore up its balance sheet.
Propius is another aspect of the financial mire associated with the Groups pretty disastrous foray into aviation.
The rail business has already been unloaded for a nominal sum.
Common factors in play with the latest revelations are Dublin-a familiarity between all & both operators loaded with debt which Falko seemingly is not adverse to.
The only "prize" at eye level viewing appears to be the IAG/EIN franchise.
A pertinent question possibly given the stated desire/need of the Stobart Group to exit Stobart Air where next if the "deal" falls through coupled with IAG/EIN playing extreme hardball re the franchise renewal as WW at IAG signaled previously would be the case.
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As you say, it is important that the Group can dispose of Stobart Air/Propius in a fashion that relieves them of the potential financial liabilities and without an EIN franchise renewal, or extension at the very least, that will be difficult. Of course CityJet/Air Nostrum were, if I remember correctly, the main competitors to Stobart Air in that regard. Maybe EIN would see a sale to Falko as being in their best interests as well. They naturally want a stable franchise partner and this could be the best way of achieving that.
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WW seemed to indicate a search for a franchise partner does not have to be limited.
CityJet regarded as a competitor with/for the franchise so perhaps they/Falko are looking to "eliminate" the incumbent eventually in the negotiations for a nominal sum along with Falko assuming debt which in their business affairs they are not averse to.
Perhaps break clauses in the Franchise can ultimately be effected before 2022 but IAG/EIN hold all the cards.
Anyways it appears the revolving doors will be working overtime in Dublin.
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Whatever the outcome you can be sure it’s unlikely to meet with the approval of Andrew Tinkler.

“Facts Warwick Brady CEO in the last 2 years has lost S/H £762m a average of £31.7 per month this must be close to winning him a OBE. Well done Stobart Chairman & Board of directors you all deserve a Medal for your efforts for protecting Stakeholder value 🆘”

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Good point re Mr T...He is obviously in the wings (pun acknowledged) observing & waiting...waiting.

That`s an awful lot of money.
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To be fair to Warwick Brady, Coronavirus has thrown a really large spanner into Stobart’s finances.
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Originally Posted by southside bobby
Good point re Mr T...He is obviously in the wings (pun acknowledged) observing & waiting...waiting.

That`s an awful lot of money.
https://www.investegate.co.uk/stobar...041540381219Y/

Since more than one party is interested

Im sure Mr T is wanting Stobart Air

I would hazard a guess and say might at one party interested could be T3 as they are looking for a code share for Teesside to Heathrow Route
and that would make it easier to get EIN franchise extended?
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And Aer Lingus seems to have had a very good experience with ASL Airlines operating B757s for it transatlantic and ASL seems to have a good reputation with the likes of DHL operating a wide range of aircraft types ...
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Lets not mention the ASL 737 in BHD though.....
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It wasn't great but not the worst idea.
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Unlikely, but could IAG show any interest given that a lot of the EI regional routes are DUB feeders? Terrible timing though.
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Old 29th Sep 2020, 05:37
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independent.ie reporting EIN regional ops have now gone out to tender.
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