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Old 5th Mar 2020, 17:21
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall View Post
Head to head with Loganair on two of the three new routes. Crazy - surely there is enough to go around without going up against each other.
For the love of god, has nobody learned anything in the regional market? Let’s just squander a heap of cash on thin routes in competition with each other and make a loss while we’re at it! Unbelievable!
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 17:28
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For the love of god, has nobody learned anything in the regional market? Let’s just squander a heap of cash on thin routes in competition with each other and make a loss while we’re at it! Unbelievable!
Have to agree with you there.....Eastern (or Loganair) should look at the Regional Airports where BE we’re prominent and look at the potential at these airports......

In my case, CWL has lost BHD, CMF, ORK, DUB, EDI, GVA, JER & CDG. Loganair have quickly taken over the EDI but that leaves the “main” routes to BHD, DUB & CDG with no operator at all.

With no other competitors on routes like this (not just from CWL) you’d think they’d look into the potential than going straight into compete with other new carriers on the same routes.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 19:19
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl View Post
Have to agree with you there.....Eastern (or Loganair) should look at the Regional Airports where BE we’re prominent and look at the potential at these airports......

In my case, CWL has lost BHD, CMF, ORK, DUB, EDI, GVA, JER & CDG. Loganair have quickly taken over the EDI but that leaves the “main” routes to BHD, DUB & CDG with no operator at all.

With no other competitors on routes like this (not just from CWL) you’d think they’d look into the potential than going straight into compete with other new carriers on the same routes.
Ah that word ‘potential’. Unfortunately they only have a limited number of A/C and crew so they’ll go where they can make the money. If that’s competing against another airline they’ll do it. It could be that CWL - BHD For example is too marginal. The routes will start up again eventually but let’s be realistic, BE haven’t been gone a day yet...
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 20:25
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Those routes may be the biggest market and could cope with 2 airlines

NCL-SOU used to be operated for years with eastern and Flybe.

T3 will know how big these markets are and profits to be made out of them
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 20:57
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Isn't the answer more insidious: this is pretty blatant that Eastern are just trying to irritate Loganair, presumably into taking them over?

Can't see it happening myself but it is the only rational explanation for deliberately going head-to-head on two routes when there are literally handfuls of others to enjoy to yourself.


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Old 5th Mar 2020, 21:37
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall View Post
Isn't the answer more insidious: this is pretty blatant that Eastern are just trying to irritate Loganair, presumably into taking them over?

Can't see it happening myself but it is the only rational explanation for deliberately going head-to-head on two routes when there are literally handfuls of others to enjoy to yourself.
If they really did want to irritate LM, then surely they would try the Northern Isles routes again?
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 19:43
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From 1000am tomorrow morning, Eastern Airways ticket booking and flight search engine will go LIVE on there web site.

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Old 6th Mar 2020, 20:03
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Would Eastern contemplate any of the core BE routes from CWL to BHD, DUB or CDG? Especially as they are already a known airline operating to ABZ, VLY & MME.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 21:01
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Surprised that Eastern haven't taken on the BHD to LBA route, usually 4 to 5 flights a day.
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl View Post
Would Eastern contemplate any of the core BE routes from CWL to BHD, DUB or CDG? Especially as they are already a known airline operating to ABZ, VLY & MME.
With what? They’ve got a very small fleet as it is.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 21:42
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With what? They’ve got a very small fleet as it is.
Well they had started to advertise for CWL cabin crew before the collapse of BE happened. They already have x1 J41 based there too which is primarily for the Government PSO service to VLY. An additional J41 could easily fit in both BHD & DUB to their network.
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl View Post
Would Eastern contemplate any of the core BE routes from CWL to BHD, DUB or CDG? Especially as they are already a known airline operating to ABZ, VLY & MME.
You may think I'm being pessimistic but I wouldn't get your hopes up about routes being replaced at Cardiff especially in the short term. It'll most likely take Cardiff the longest to recover from this.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 21:51
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Why are Eastern going into competition with Loganair?
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 23:48
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For flights booked on flybe services operated by our franchise partners, Eastern Airways and Blue Islands, these continue to operate as normal today and we ask you to contact them directly at [email protected] or on 08703-669100 for Eastern Airways.
Is this a clumsy wording, or are Eastern doing customer service for Blue Islands?
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From 1000am tomorrow morning, Eastern Airways ticket booking and flight search engine will go LIVE on there web site.
Not working for me yet - anybody else been able to access it?
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 12:01
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Not working for me yet - anybody else been able to access it?
Blue Islands went live this morning so maybe a bit of confusion?
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Nope - none.

Teesside Airport: Eastern Airway's booking system to go live after Flybe collapse
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 13:37
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Not working for me yet - anybody else been able to access it?
YES its working now
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 15:01
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Cheers - sorted now. One minor addition noted is a couple of IOM flights over August Bank Holiday from Teesside.
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SOU Routes

Looks like Eastern will be basing a F100 (lease?) and a ER-4 at SOU.

SOU - NCL
up to 2 daily:
0710 and 1510 (MON-THU)
1110 and 1510 (FRI)
1510 (SUN)

Only displays 2 daily on the SOU-NCL and 1 afternoon flight on the NCL-SOU - Maybe this is a website error, or will position elsewhere empty?

SOU - MAN
0715 and 1515 (Mon-Thu)
1115 and 1515 (Fri)
1515 (Sun)

LBA and MME look remain unchanged
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