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[rog747]

Oh dear - obviously you have never dealt with business flyers lol

[caaardiff]

Originally Posted by rog747

With all due respect I worked at LHR with BMA for many years when we had 5 x DC-9 MME rotations a day - I'm not daft you know.

What amazes me is that airlines today such as Eastern will have no chance on getting these routes viable if timing and infrastructure is absent/lacking -
I am quite easily pleased but if we want to see recovery (post Covid - post Flybe - post almost everything else) then some foresight has to be in the business plan surely?
I have tried again and again to use my local airport and to support it but to no avail.

Times have obviously changed since DC-9's were gracing the skies. Shouldn't you be taking your complaint up with the Hire Car companies rather than the Airline? What do you expect Eastern to do, change their flight times to suit Hire Car companies opening hours, making routes less business friendly? Or paying the hire companies to stay open just on the off chance that someone wants to hire a car in the middle of a global pandemic?

[rog747]

If you want a route to work - Firstly you look at do the times suit your business model? Well, yes an 18.30 arrival is very nice - home for tea for the locals.


Airlines always used to work closely with Car Hire Companies especially for the ease of businessmen, or has all of that fallen by the way side too?

Seems if MME Tees-side, Eastern, and SOU all want this to work then sorry but none of this is rocket science - If it does not work then it will surely fail.

[BA318]

Originally Posted by rog747

Oh dear - obviously you have never dealt with business flyers lol

Get a grip. The world is a different place since BMI were flying let alone flying DC-9s. I travel weekly for business (including during Corona) and first thing I check is how I’ll get from the airport - is car hire/train available and then I make my decision on which flight suits my plan. I don’t call Lufthansa and complain that my flight arrives too late. Insulting people and saying they obviously never dealt with business flyers doesn’t make your argument right.

Other than Heathrow where there are car hire options open 24/7, almost all airports have some flights arriving or departing after the car hire has closed.

[rog747]

Originally Posted by BA318

Get a grip. The world is a different place since BMI were flying let alone flying DC-9s.

Other than Heathrow where there are car hire options open 24/7, almost all airports have some flights arriving or departing after the car hire has closed.

Sadly old chap BA have now canned my first choice LHR-LBA - No more flights between the City pairs anymore...Thus I did try and ''go and use local'' but alas to no avail.

Come on - you would have thought with Easterns' arrivals all landing after 6pm that a Car Rental would be open for some sort of business revival plan?

[JSCL]

Originally Posted by BA318

Get a grip. The world is a different place since BMI were flying let alone flying DC-9s. I travel weekly for business (including during Corona) and first thing I check is how I’ll get from the airport - is car hire/train available and then I make my decision on which flight suits my plan. I don’t call Lufthansa and complain that my flight arrives too late. Insulting people and saying they obviously never dealt with business flyers doesn’t make your argument right.

Other than Heathrow where there are car hire options open 24/7, almost all airports have some flights arriving or departing after the car hire has closed.

In my world, my secretary books all my travel and wouldn't think twice at paying a small fee for an out-of-ours collection if it was required and more convenient in terms of travel time. But it is what it is, I guess? I'm sure the hire company will look to adust as flights ramp up again there.

[oldart]

Rog747. Out of hours car hire £60, how much was the B and B? Mountain out of a mole hill comes to mind!

[jamestkirk]

rog747

I think you'd better leave it mate and write to Avis etc.

[rog747]

Sadly LOL I'm not on expenses, and no longer have a Secretary (Those were the days)
I still need a B&B - I cannot do this trip as a day trip except possibly on the train - at least when they dont cancel me at the last minute like last week lol

Yes Jamestkirk - I am obviously on a complete and utter loser and despite trying my best to support our ailing airlines and airports I'm afraid its back to my car (again)

[Startledgrapefruit]

Originally Posted by jamestkirk

I think you'd better leave it mate and write to Avis etc.

Actually they should write to the airport
Then they will go to the car hire company as they probably have a contract to provide with car hire
Then they will zoom each other or whatever they have up north
Then the airport will contact you back with a letter saying....... The satisfaction of our customers is our number one priority however in these challenging times our Tennant is unable to blah blah blah blame them not us..... And we hope you continue to use our airport and support us in the future.
​​​Result !

[caaardiff]

Originally Posted by oldart

Rog747. Out of hours car hire £60, how much was the B and B? Mountain out of a mole hill comes to mind!

Absolutely, and I think that's the biggest point of this entirely pointless complaint. There IS hire car available out of hours, where like everything in this post DC-9 world, you have to pay for it

[Expressflight]

Originally Posted by caaardiff

So you clearly just wanted a moan rather than doing proper research.

That sums it up nicely.

[virginblue]

Originally Posted by rog747

Oh dear - obviously you have never dealt with business flyers lol

I assume this was directed at me. Well, I am a business flyer as well and I am also part of the business world - where things are usually done on the basis whether there is a business case or not. Apparently there is no business case for car rental companies to keep their airport office at MME open for evening flights which, based on the size of the aircraft used into MME, appears to make some sense as the number of suits staggering off the aircraft and renting out a car on a daily basis will be very small. The airport or the airline could off-set the additional costs, but apparently for them it is not a business case either. As others have pointed out, it does not mean that anyone is stuck at the airport, it is just a little bit more expensive to depart on a car.

[Fletch]

With regards the MME-LCY route, is there any particular company/industry cluster in the Teesside area that is supporting this route? Or is it a generic City/Financial Sector/London route?

I'm not familiar with the industry around the Teesside area so apologies if it's obvious.

[toledoashley]

There is a bit of a Fintech bubble in Durham, but apart from that that I'm not sure.

[Fly757X]

According to G-INFO, G-CIHD (VH-XNE) and G-CIHE (VH-XNF) have been registered to Eastern in the last few weeks.

Are these to enter service now after 6 years of being down and out?

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by Fletch

With regards the MME-LCY route, is there any particular company/industry cluster in the Teesside area that is supporting this route? Or is it a generic City/Financial Sector/London route?

I'm not familiar with the industry around the Teesside area so apologies if it's obvious.

The petro-chemical industry has kept KLM going for years with more renewables lately, otherwise it will by pretty generic - and there's a Mayor with an election next May

[Fletch]

Well I hope the Mayor has a big cheque book! Hopefully all the new routes work out. The London flights do look they could be up against it though with the train times to central London.

[N707ZS]

Originally Posted by Fletch

With regards the MME-LCY route, is there any particular company/industry cluster in the Teesside area that is supporting this route? Or is it a generic City/Financial Sector/London route?

I'm not familiar with the industry around the Teesside area so apologies if it's obvious.

Mayor is trying to get a government department to move to Teesside. There are/was a number of tec companies in the area.

[davidjohnson6]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rth-of-england