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Old 9th Jul 2019, 19:37
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Is it viable to promote a train and bus service which only takes revenue away from your car park.
Wouldnt that be true then for the other 'International' airports with direct rail connections, bus services and (usually full) car parks?
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 19:45
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I note that passenger numbers increased in 2018, halting an 11 year decline. At 142,000 it is still only one third of the passengers through Blackpool when they shut-up shop.
Wasnt the issue that Blackpool runway at 1869 mtrs was OK for Jet2's 737-300s but unable to take the coming -800s etc so by 2014 had no B&S flights?
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 19:54
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Originally Posted by sixchannel
Wasnt the issue that Blackpool runway at 1869 mtrs was OK for Jet2's 737-300s but unable to take the coming -800s etc so by 2014 had no B&S flights?
No, Jet2 wanted to stay. The problem with BLK was its owner who had a history of building things like houses and industrial estates. Not so different from a certain other airport operator which owned MME until recently.
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 19:59
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
Is it viable to promote a train and bus service which only takes revenue away from your car park.
I think this is an excellent point. There is no money to be made from planes landing in the short term so the cash will have to come from parking, taxis and retail, especially as the £6 fee will be going.

If you live in Darlington, taxis are £10 to the airport and if you live further afield, a taxi to MME will still be cheaper than getting one to NCL. A shuttle bus service to Stockton/Middlesbrough aligned with leisure flight departures & arrivals at £5 per person would possibly be interesting but the airport needs to retain the income on such a service.

In 2006, when the airport was at it's peak in terms of passenger numbers, only 85 people used the railway station in the whole year! Let's worry about the station when we get back to 1m pax annually.
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 20:32
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
Is it viable to promote a train and bus service which only takes revenue away from your car park.
There was a electric shuttle bus which ran between the station and terminal I think it was in the 70s
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 21:05
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The problem with BLK was its owner who had a history of building things like houses and industrial estates.
...and couldn't make money on what Jet2 was willing to pay.

The problem with small airports like MME, BLK etc is how to attract that critical mass of pax that will support shops, public transport etc before you start making money from them.

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Old 9th Jul 2019, 22:29
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The electric shuttle bus used to run before the days of low cost it was replaced by a service bus for a short while. Then the green fence with the locked gates appeared to make it difficult to park anywhere other than the official carpark. A subsidised bus did run between Darlington Station and the airport for a period, no idea who paid but bet it wasn't Peel.

There is a service bus again to Darlington, it doesn't reach the terminal and again the times are poor, last bus something like 4.30pm.
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Old 10th Jul 2019, 08:15
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
The electric shuttle bus used to run before the days of low cost it was replaced by a service bus for a short while. Then the green fence with the locked gates appeared to make it difficult to park anywhere other than the official carpark. A subsidised bus did run between Darlington Station and the airport for a period, no idea who paid but bet it wasn't Peel.

There is a service bus again to Darlington, it doesn't reach the terminal and again the times are poor, last bus something like 4.30pm.
Some joined up thinking required?
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Old 10th Jul 2019, 10:51
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Height of the summer season almost and only 3 scheduled departures today..think it’s more than trains ,shuttles and buses that are needed?

Amazing, Newly opened Carlisle has the same amount of schedules but one more destination!

Is it just me or were we expecting a little more dynamic news than a jewellery shop opening in the terminal?
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Old 10th Jul 2019, 11:24
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That's the trouble people expect an overnight fix, both the Mayor and Stobart said it would take time. At the end of the day the only potential airline in the UK is Virgin Connect when they start up later in the year, even then they'll probably get smaller before they get bigger due to the poor health of Flybe
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Height of the summer season almost and only 3 scheduled departures today..think itís more than trains ,shuttles and buses that are needed?

Amazing, Newly opened Carlisle has the same amount of schedules but one more destination!

Is it just me or were we expecting a little more dynamic news than a jewellery shop opening in the terminal?
"Baby steps" ?
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Yes, but the steps need to be in the right direction. For example, is the fate of the train station the key issue facing the airport or an unnecessary (albeit publicity generating) diversion of resource?
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Old 10th Jul 2019, 12:47
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Yes, but the steps need to be in the right direction. For example, is the fate of the train station the key issue facing the airport or an unnecessary (albeit publicity generating) diversion of resource?
An unnecessary diversion courtesy of the Meeja.
EMA and LTN (just to quote 2 off the top) do quite nicely with railway stations that are not on the premises. But I would suspect that travellers to most airports do not go by rail. Too limited a service - EMAs shuttle to Parkway for instance only operates 9-5, no use at all for stupid o'clock Arrivals.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-48937493

Originally Posted by Ben Houchen
"We are looking at options on how to upgrade the current station - including shuttles and horizontal escalators - to link it more effectively with the terminal."
He can't be serious? I'd pay enough to cover the cost just to see that in action!
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He needs to have word with Manchester - they've got some he could have cheap...
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Old 10th Jul 2019, 18:13
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Is it just me or were we expecting a little more dynamic news than a jewellery shop opening in the terminal?
We were hoping for Ramsdens Fish and Chips.
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 09:05
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He needs to have word with Manchester - they've got some he could have cheap...
Yeah, but they're not working either. :-)
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Originally Posted by sixchannel
Yeah, but they're not working either. :-)
That's a bit unfair - they do work (sometimes) 😥
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
We were hoping for Ramsdens Fish and Chips.
Maybe if TIA manages to attract a loco or B&S flights, it , or summat similar, might be a Do'er.
BTW - as one who used the now-closed Hotel a lot in the 80s when traipsing back and forth to the Continong, are there 'plans' to do something with it?
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There has been talk about re-opening some sort of hotel.
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