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Old 31st May 2019, 21:52
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No way Heathrow is coming back unless there is a 3rd runway. Even then, there has to be enough demand from a combination of direct traffic to/from London (so against the train) and connecting traffic (against KLM to AMS).

For connecting traffic, I think the problem for FlyBe/Connect is that Virgin does not have anything like the route network out of LHR to feed that BA does. FlyBe do not seem to have made much a success of offering codeshares to mainline carriers and even if Virgin/Connect was to join SkyTeam, you couldn't really fly that many extra places via LHR that you couldn't via AMS today.
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Old 31st May 2019, 22:10
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Domestic connectivity is being put forward as a major benefit of the third runway at LHR - there is a proposal to ring-fence slots for additional domestic services, I think with preference for unserved routes.
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Old 31st May 2019, 22:15
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Do KLM operate routes to ' Sun ' destinations, I just wondered as seeing how at Teeside they seem to do well, would they be a possible provider , for example to Palma and Alicante.
They operate to Malaga etc from Amsterdam. As far as I know they don't do anything from outside the Netherlands. Their 'low-cost' arm, Transavia, do more traditional 'holiday flights' from Amsterdam, Rotterdam and a few other places in the Netherlands. But likewise, nothing from other countries.
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Old 31st May 2019, 22:29
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I do feel sorry for folk who had a decent airport, and slowly watched it being ruined by those running it .
Here's hoping all that public money is worth the investment.
I do feel sorry for folk who had a decent airport, and slowly watched it being ruined by leisure airlines starting to want millions of pounds for services, before going bust anyway or consolidating to the bigger bases, but hey ho.

That said, interesting the Flybe booking engine is showing Guernsey, Paris and Southampton from MME, no dates available though so probably nothing?
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Old 31st May 2019, 23:01
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You can book via KLM, flights to Alicante, Malaga, Palma, Ibiza etc with the Transavia or Air Europa flights having a KLM codeshare - friends fly to Alicante this way about 3 times a year.

The routes to Southampton and Guernsey etc are connecting flights via Jersey or Aberdeen in some cases!
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 09:45
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Originally Posted by mmeman View Post
You can book via KLM, flights to Alicante, Malaga, Palma, Ibiza etc with the Transavia or Air Europa flights having a KLM codeshare - friends fly to Alicante this way about 3 times a year.

The routes to Southampton and Guernsey etc are connecting flights via Jersey or Aberdeen in some cases!
It is an under marketed option. Let’s take a family of 5 wanting to go to Salou next May. Flights from Newcastle with Jet2 to Reus cost around £2k during half term. Fly from Teesside to Barcelona with KLM and it costs around £800. More expensive taxi options from Barcelona partly offset by lower taxi options in the UK. But who actually does this? I do and save a lot in doing so but I suspect few people wanting a flight only deal to the sun would even think about it.

iInterested in those Flybe rumours - Paris would be a good one!
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 11:10
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Suppose it's cost vs time and convenience.

Second Balkan flight has gone tech this morning.

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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 09:04
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Yesterday’s Bourgas had a 12 hour tech delay. Believe a replacement came in. A 12 hour delay would be horrendous in any airport, but how did the passengers cope at Teesside? What did they do? How did the staff manage? Hope there was
enough beer in the taps....
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 09:20
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I think the other Balkan a/c dropped off an engineer and parts rather than being a replacement.

Was the Mayor on hand?
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 09:35
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Second one brought in new crew via LBA. First one was ready to go when they arrived. Don't know how well the LBA pax took it. "By the way were just dropping this group off at DTVA on the way to Borgas".

Mayor was probably at the Take That concert.
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 12:15
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Welcome to the promised land of holiday flights from your local airport!

Hope the airport had the decency to refund the passenger departure tax?
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 12:19
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Originally Posted by N707ZS View Post
Second one brought in new crew via LBA. First one was ready to go when they arrived.
So who fixed it?
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 12:23
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly View Post
Welcome to the promised land of holiday flights from your local airport!

Hope the airport had the decency to refund the passenger departure tax?
Not the airports fault, they didn't ask it to break down

The second one brought in engineers not crew
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 13:28
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Robert,

Any idea how the passengers were managed for 12 hours? All stayed in the departure lounge with all facilities remaining open? Airline providing food and drinks vouchers? Staff on overtime?

I know this is common elsewhere but just wondering how the logistics work when there are barely no other flights planned and staff were due home?
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 14:24
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Express Cafe remained open, vouchers were provided and at least one Tesco run was made to restock!!
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 17:01
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Express Cafe remained open, vouchers were provided and at least one Tesco run was made to restock!!
Good for them , and on a weekend too.
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 07:50
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Interesting comment from the Mayor here - don't think I've seen this stated before? Fair play in supporting local businesses, but I thought the business case for using taxpayers money to take the airport into public ownership was to improve the region connections with the world so as to support business, not make it easier for locals to export money out of the region?

“As part of our 10 Year Rescue Plan, our priority to secure new flights to holiday destinations, but, in the meantime, we’re also working flat-out to ensure local companies come first for new contracts.
Durham Tees Valley Airport commits to nearby firms over UK companies
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 09:56
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Think its the case of some news is better than no news. The current situation is that loads of services were run from Doncaster, just the other day we had a discussion who is on the other end of the carpark barrier intercom and where are they. This is just an example of things that need to be brought back in house along with the businesses to run the services which the media is reporting on.

No idea when we are going to here some development news that we really want to here.

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Old 8th Jun 2019, 10:52
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I'm more interested in the comment about the priority being to secure new holiday flights - good use of taxpayers money?
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 11:41
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Think we all are.
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