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Old 16th Feb 2018, 10:30
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Robert Hough interview video

Ex DTVA Ltd councillors have voted to block the Tees Mayor plans to start buying back airport today.
Its now becoming clearer why they wanted more say on the new board. Could this be just a way of getting back at the new Mayor because Councillor Jeffries didn't win the Mayor seat?

Robert Hough says that Peel don't want to sell the airport. Strange that they did want to sell it before. Could it be the house plans now have planning permission?

Remember the 5 year option which he mentioned in another press interview. What are the Financial Criteria which Peel want in 5 years to keep it open?

It sounds like Labour councillors are doing Peels bidding, but its not surprising considering they gifted Peel the airport and have allowed them to run the place down. Its all sounding a bit like the Sheffield airport saga.

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...-live-14297629
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Excellent to hear the Mayor was blocked this morning, shame he can still overrule it.

Beafer, I know others have said similar things on here before but can you please not state your opinion as though it's definite, you THINK Peel have run the place down, a more likely scenario is that they have managed the airport accordingly as trade has been been lost for reasons relating to the other end and not the airport owners end.
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I know I have asked before but waters are still pretty muddy.
Does anyone know when income/revenue might start to flow into the coffers.

To avoid the stink about the “loan” or donation of 500k of local tax payers money..why don’t PEEL as a good honest neighbour..just say ,forget it,we don’t need it,we will put in an interest free loan of 500k to be repaid when the money starts coming in.

Forgive me if I am to9 simplistic or naive!
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 12:04
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Do Eastern have a crew based at MME and if so would they be qualified on jet aircraft? I might be wrong but there can't be much difference in timing, say MME to DUB, between a jet and turbo aircraft!
As far as I am aware eastern airways already operate jets as part of there fleet......
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 12:48
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As far as I am aware eastern airways already operate jets as part of there fleet..

Correct, but do they have a qualified jet crew at MME if required?
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No crew qualified at MME. I wouldn’t place too much hope on a rumour like that knowing the inner workings of the company. The plans change daily!
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Eastern/Flybe

So Eastern have cancelled all 3 of their flights this afternoon/evening 2 from Aberdeen and 1 back up..meaning no flights from Aberdeen for them at all today, and 1 flight up to Aberdeen this morning which went via Humberside - back to 1500 passengers a month when Loganair go because of reliability issues?

Anyone know if they put their passengers on the Loganair flights as notice it is a Saab2000 flying for them?
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 17:15
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As I said..they can do what they want now...problem is they are also in a mess...
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 18:43
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Good job Peel have worked hard to bring in a competitor to keep them honest - or wait...
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Having been away this week, just catching up on the latest shenanigans - in all the hot air and posturing, the only comment that makes much sense is this one from a Peel spokesman:

With this all hanging over the airport, opportunities are being missed and confidence is being damaged.
The Mayor seems to be getting even more entrenched against Peel, and he might be right. If only he would say how he plans to buy the airport (where's the money?!) and then what he would do with it his views would be more credible.

I suppose one perverse crumb of comfort is Peel must see some long term value, or they'd dump it in his lap and be done with the hassle!
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Would it not be in the public purse interest to stay at DTV?
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Apparently Peel threw everything at them to stay, but I get the impression their arrogance scuppered any deal
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Mayors other project

Beafer missed this one.

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...t-bid-14300185
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Thought GNAA are a charity?
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Can someone correct/inform or whatever...

PEEL want 500k. For what exactly..I don’t know..lbelieve they want the money from the local taxpayers....

PEEL. Want the the local authorities to pay off the local pensions funds for airport employees..AFS,ATC and airport workers...not sure total cost.

Could someone tell me..actually,really..how much have they invested in the airport as a major stakeholder...or have they asked TVCA/DTV. To actually stump up money...
It seems to me...the people who have least investment or shares/stake in the airpor5 are having to provide the majority of the investment??
Phew!
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PEEL want 500k. For what exactly..I donít know..lbelieve they want the money from the local taxpayers....

Here's what the money is for:

£425,000 to support route development and improvements to retail facilities at Durham Tees Valley Airport. DTVA have confirmed to us that the detail of the proposal is commercially confidential, and has therefore been circulated to Members separately. In summary, it proposes:
1.Support to enable additional tour operations in the summer season
2. Marketing support to increase demand for existing routes
3. Market support to establish new routes; and
4. Capital investment to establish a confectionary, tobacco and news duty free outlet.
Could someone tell me..actually,really..how much have they invested in the airport as a major stakeholder...or have they asked TVCA/DTV. To actually stump up money

The airport is reportedly losing £200k a month - that money comes from Peel - you do the sums...
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Hang on..what is the develop fee fund for ?

Again..who paid up front for the pension pay off..PEEL or local tax payers..sorry if I sound like Beafers lost son!,

Lot of local money going in...still can’t see PEELS money..or are they waiting for the housing pay out?....
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Old 18th Feb 2018, 20:19
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If the end result is more flights then nothing else matters, if anyone's bothered about the taxpayer aspect go seek out the professional taxpayers rumour network
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Old 18th Feb 2018, 21:19
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DTVA worker pension no longer paid by Peel

Highwide, its okay dad, I agree with you

Peel no longer pay the airport staff pensions, they managed to get the council to take over paying them!!! I don't know how they managed to pull that one off?
Ah its only tax payers money.
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Standard procedure, most major PLCs have in the last few years gone to great lengths to offload pensions
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