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What a difference a year makes I remember the stats being reported then with BHX pulling ahead of EDI quite strongly in the key summer months. A complete turnaround. Not good when traffic is generally up. Not a rosy future.
Source: CAA
July 2018 Passenger figures 1313887 (1436756) down 8.55% - 2017 in brackets
Passenger transport movements 10007 (11594) down 12% - Cargo 247 (250) down 1%
The difficult summer continues and only slightly better in August I believe.
What is left of long-haul was not too bad with Qatar just 7 pax down on July 2017, Emirates averaging just shy of 500 and Amritsar/Delhi service was slightly up at just over 13000 and Islambad was also up.
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July 2018 Passenger figures 1313887 (1436756) down 8.55% - 2017 in brackets
Passenger transport movements 10007 (11594) down 12% - Cargo 247 (250) down 1%
The difficult summer continues and only slightly better in August I believe.
What is left of long-haul was not too bad with Qatar just 7 pax down on July 2017, Emirates averaging just shy of 500 and Amritsar/Delhi service was slightly up at just over 13000 and Islambad was also up.
Pete
It does suggest that there is probably room for organic (rather than explosive) growth over the next few years, though that should be cautioned since still nobody knows what Brexit will bring - hopefully another 20 months breathing space (till Dec. 2020) for things to be properly sorted out.
From a business perspective I imagine the airlines will be pretty pleased that aircraft movements are down a greater percentage than passengers, which might suggest that there is a higher load factor generally,
I'm sure Pete has the actual numbers, but my gut tells me that with ZB 321s being effective replaced by LS 738s, and fewer E195 and E170s from FlyBe the average number of seats per aircraft may be a little less.
Over to you Pete!
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Aircraft size and Jet2
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Although the Corfu ends early September as planned and the extra frequencies to Rhodes, Heraklion and Mahon also finish they have had a reshuffle with some aircraft in October only operating just the one flight such as 3 of the 9 aircraft on a Thursday but overall there are still 9 on based when originally it was 8 operational after the second week in September.
The good news as well as Prague returning on Monday and Friday as scheduled they have added a second Malaga Saturday morning within 10 minutes of the first, the Palma away based on a Sunday becomes based departing just 5 minutes after the first morning Palma. Saturday sees an extra Antalya added, Sunday and extra Arrecife and Friday afternoon a second Tenerife again departing shortly after the first. Monday gets an extra Antalya.
I make Saturdays 20 flights in early October as the away based Alicante's remain away based.
Certain routes see planned reductions or end early such as Zante, Almeria, Thessaloniki, Ibiza, Kos so no surprises as all originally scheduled.
The Primera base seems to close at the end of September with the Malaga an away based aircraft from Stansted.
It is far from all doom and gloom and to cap it all an extraordinary week of GA movements plus MAEL seeing Virgin, Norwegian 787's and a DHL 757. Elmdon side is booming. Still a long way to go with the route mix but still heading in the right direction.
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The good news as well as Prague returning on Monday and Friday as scheduled they have added a second Malaga Saturday morning within 10 minutes of the first, the Palma away based on a Sunday becomes based departing just 5 minutes after the first morning Palma. Saturday sees an extra Antalya added, Sunday and extra Arrecife and Friday afternoon a second Tenerife again departing shortly after the first. Monday gets an extra Antalya.
I make Saturdays 20 flights in early October as the away based Alicante's remain away based.
Certain routes see planned reductions or end early such as Zante, Almeria, Thessaloniki, Ibiza, Kos so no surprises as all originally scheduled.
The Primera base seems to close at the end of September with the Malaga an away based aircraft from Stansted.
It is far from all doom and gloom and to cap it all an extraordinary week of GA movements plus MAEL seeing Virgin, Norwegian 787's and a DHL 757. Elmdon side is booming. Still a long way to go with the route mix but still heading in the right direction.
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Summer 19 & winter 18
Wizz
Summer 19 showing Bucharest at 3 a week (no change) and Cluj 2 a week which has yet to start. Other routes not released
Ryanair
An extra Krakow added for summer on a Monday with an away based aircraft.
The only other summer change is the second Thursday away based Malaga has been moved to a based evening flight on a Wednesday.
Winter now sees Malaga 6 a week with the away based Sunday the most recent addition, Alicante is daily with Tuesday the latest addition around a month ago. They have shaved a rotation off Dublin on Tuesday and Thursday to make it 5 daily Tuesday-Thursday but still up slightly on last winter when Sunday, Monday and Friday were just 4 daily but they will be 6 daily this winter if nothing changes. Faro was the only other increase going from 2 to 3 a week.
Jet2
Very fluid and generally positive with the changes mainly around Easter with Naples now twice a week from mid month, Antalya 4 a week (Thomas Cook 5 a week at Easter), Dubrovnik 2 weekly and Rhodes staring at Easter. I have not noticed any high season changes for summer 19 recently but still a lot afternoons with 14 departures requiring 12 aircraft. Summer 18 retains use of the 9th based as they have retimed some flights from mid September.
Air India
Troubling as Friday Delhi has now been off-sale about a week from 12 October thus making it only 6 a week from 18 October and it does not appear again thereafter.
No TAP
15 new destinations including Dublin but no surprise BHX is over-looked as they have never said they would operate from BHX but they must have such a stunning network to ignore up to 6000 pax a month. I can't believe it would affect the Manchester service too much as at present most would be heading to Luton or Bristol for O & D although some connecting pax would be using Heathrow (If not AF from BHX) and this could be an excellent opportunity to take passengers off any airlines and alliances
Flybe.
A lot of chopping and changing with the winter 195 with it mainly on the seven a day Amsterdam rather than Paris. Some winter cuts after Christmas - Lyon from 7 a week to 5, Milan between 5 and 8, Knock 3 a week at times both HAJ & HAM 4 a week even Inverness loses the Saturday service at times.
Pete
Summer 19 showing Bucharest at 3 a week (no change) and Cluj 2 a week which has yet to start. Other routes not released
Ryanair
An extra Krakow added for summer on a Monday with an away based aircraft.
The only other summer change is the second Thursday away based Malaga has been moved to a based evening flight on a Wednesday.
Winter now sees Malaga 6 a week with the away based Sunday the most recent addition, Alicante is daily with Tuesday the latest addition around a month ago. They have shaved a rotation off Dublin on Tuesday and Thursday to make it 5 daily Tuesday-Thursday but still up slightly on last winter when Sunday, Monday and Friday were just 4 daily but they will be 6 daily this winter if nothing changes. Faro was the only other increase going from 2 to 3 a week.
Jet2
Very fluid and generally positive with the changes mainly around Easter with Naples now twice a week from mid month, Antalya 4 a week (Thomas Cook 5 a week at Easter), Dubrovnik 2 weekly and Rhodes staring at Easter. I have not noticed any high season changes for summer 19 recently but still a lot afternoons with 14 departures requiring 12 aircraft. Summer 18 retains use of the 9th based as they have retimed some flights from mid September.
Air India
Troubling as Friday Delhi has now been off-sale about a week from 12 October thus making it only 6 a week from 18 October and it does not appear again thereafter.
No TAP
15 new destinations including Dublin but no surprise BHX is over-looked as they have never said they would operate from BHX but they must have such a stunning network to ignore up to 6000 pax a month. I can't believe it would affect the Manchester service too much as at present most would be heading to Luton or Bristol for O & D although some connecting pax would be using Heathrow (If not AF from BHX) and this could be an excellent opportunity to take passengers off any airlines and alliances
Flybe.
A lot of chopping and changing with the winter 195 with it mainly on the seven a day Amsterdam rather than Paris. Some winter cuts after Christmas - Lyon from 7 a week to 5, Milan between 5 and 8, Knock 3 a week at times both HAJ & HAM 4 a week even Inverness loses the Saturday service at times.
Pete
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Thomas Cook winter 18/19
The extra based aircraft, a Thomas Cook Balearics A320, will be operating as below:
Mon: Fuerteventura*
Tue: Tenerife* Antalya*
Wed: Tenerife*
Thu: Tenerife* Las Palmas* Arrecife* Antalya*
Fri: Tenerife* Arrecife* Dalaman* (Nov night flight)
Sat: Tenerife* Fuerteventura* Grenoble* Antalya*
Sun: Palma* Tenerife
* Not operating every week
The schedule is quite flexi depending on Xmas & school holidays, two flights a day only on certain Fridays, Saturdays & Sundays
The extra based aircraft, a Thomas Cook Balearics A320, will be operating as below:
Mon: Fuerteventura*
Tue: Tenerife* Antalya*
Wed: Tenerife*
Thu: Tenerife* Las Palmas* Arrecife* Antalya*
Fri: Tenerife* Arrecife* Dalaman* (Nov night flight)
Sat: Tenerife* Fuerteventura* Grenoble* Antalya*
Sun: Palma* Tenerife
* Not operating every week
The schedule is quite flexi depending on Xmas & school holidays, two flights a day only on certain Fridays, Saturdays & Sundays
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I read on here that Primera would make a decision about the transatlantic services early in 2019. In view of the plethora of announcements, including the latest Madrid, on new transatlantic services, is there likely to be an announcement sooner, in order to have time to promote and encourage reservations?
I read on here that Primera would make a decision about the transatlantic services early in 2019. In view of the plethora of announcements, including the latest Madrid, on new transatlantic services, is there likely to be an announcement sooner, in order to have time to promote and encourage reservations?
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ATNotts Very quick reply, cheers. I must say it did make me think likewise. So it looks bleak with no transatlantic services for the time being, there might well be a long wait ahead for any potential services if at all, apart from the TUI and Thomas Cook type of flights, not been at all good for BHX since last year. The tunnel seems vey long when comparing to other UK airports, as I've said before there are IMO far too many gaps now even on European services, key destinations remain unserved again for 2019 it would appear. The route development team have a lot of work to do I think, but they should have done better with such a wide and large catchment area and excellent transport links. Fingers crossed.
ATNotts Very quick reply, cheers. I must say it did make me think likewise. So it looks bleak with no transatlantic services for the time being, there might well be a long wait ahead for any potential services if at all, apart from the TUI and Thomas Cook type of flights, not been at all good for BHX since last year. The tunnel seems vey long when comparing to other UK airports, as I've said before there are IMO far too many gaps now even on European services, key destinations remain unserved again for 2019 it would appear. The route development team have a lot of work to do I think, but they should have done better with such a wide and large catchment area and excellent transport links. Fingers crossed.
We just have to accept that a) the UK is essentially London Centric, and b) BHX is too close to London and Manchester; and has too little demand for front end passengers.
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Can anyone shed light on the runway closure last night? Mrs Silly was supposed to pick up a friend coming back from LCA, only to hear they got diverted to MAN
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Yep... I was on one of them... Brussles (cityjey) Sukhoi Superjet….. circled for a while then went to MAN. stayed on a remote there for a while, got tugged to a fuel point then finally made it back about half past midnight. Credit to the Captain, kept us in the loop with everything.
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Baggage Delays?!
Met some UK friends at BHX yesterday afternoon from a L O N G SYD - DBX - BHX haul.
EK39 arrived 30 mins early which i thought was great BUT why does it take 90 minutes to get luggage?
Is there a developing problem at the airport?
In 10 mins of the A380 landing, there were also 2 Jet2 arrivals, 2 TUI, and 2 Flybee. Maybe BHX s at max capacity now and can't cope any more.
EK39 arrived 30 mins early which i thought was great BUT why does it take 90 minutes to get luggage?
Is there a developing problem at the airport?
In 10 mins of the A380 landing, there were also 2 Jet2 arrivals, 2 TUI, and 2 Flybee. Maybe BHX s at max capacity now and can't cope any more.
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Met some UK friends at BHX yesterday afternoon from a L O N G SYD - DBX - BHX haul.
EK39 arrived 30 mins early which i thought was great BUT why does it take 90 minutes to get luggage?
Is there a developing problem at the airport?
In 10 mins of the A380 landing, there were also 2 Jet2 arrivals, 2 TUI, and 2 Flybee. Maybe BHX s at max capacity now and can't cope any more.
EK39 arrived 30 mins early which i thought was great BUT why does it take 90 minutes to get luggage?
Is there a developing problem at the airport?
In 10 mins of the A380 landing, there were also 2 Jet2 arrivals, 2 TUI, and 2 Flybee. Maybe BHX s at max capacity now and can't cope any more.