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I also can't see it happening on the basis that IAG wouldn't want to dilute their existing BA/IB routes from LHR. In effect they'd just be competing with themselves.
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But seriously why have all those destinations failed?
Southampton has a large and on the a whole wealthy catchment area that should surely support those destinations along with Madrid.
Those destinations are flown from many regional airports so why such a failure from Southampton, I put it down to the schedules that the quoted routes operated and they inevitably suffered because of it.
If another airline came to SOU an airline which was a household name maybe I am sure that the likes of BCN, MAD, MXP, NCE could work along with VCE.
These are the sort of destinations that we should be seeing from Southampton, it can't be the fact that no one in the airports catchment area don't fly to any of them and those travel to either LGW or LHR would surely use SOU if those destinations with well timed schedules were offered from SOU.
I know I would use such flights because the likes of Bergerac or Limoges lose their appeal once you have visited them at least once.
I hate having to drive past Southampton Airport on my way to LHR to fly to BCN something that I do approximately 6 times a year and I had such high hopes for Vueling when they started SOU to BCN a few years ago and was sad to see them leave.
I wonder if Vueling would ever attempt a return to SOU as they weren't under the ownership of IAG when they did operate from SOU and management may take a different view.
Flybe flew from SOU to NCE for years, why did it abruptly stop when so many other regional flights to France have been successful!
Maybe an Iberia flight from Madrid operated by Air Nostrum during the peak summer could work especially when you hear and see so many Spaniards in our region working, living, inbound Tourism, exchange students, etc.
The route network has so much potential from Southampton and the incumbents are not exploiting that opportunity that's why the airport desperately needs to attract new business from alternative airlines.
Southampton has a large and on the a whole wealthy catchment area that should surely support those destinations along with Madrid.
Those destinations are flown from many regional airports so why such a failure from Southampton, I put it down to the schedules that the quoted routes operated and they inevitably suffered because of it.
If another airline came to SOU an airline which was a household name maybe I am sure that the likes of BCN, MAD, MXP, NCE could work along with VCE.
These are the sort of destinations that we should be seeing from Southampton, it can't be the fact that no one in the airports catchment area don't fly to any of them and those travel to either LGW or LHR would surely use SOU if those destinations with well timed schedules were offered from SOU.
I know I would use such flights because the likes of Bergerac or Limoges lose their appeal once you have visited them at least once.
I hate having to drive past Southampton Airport on my way to LHR to fly to BCN something that I do approximately 6 times a year and I had such high hopes for Vueling when they started SOU to BCN a few years ago and was sad to see them leave.
I wonder if Vueling would ever attempt a return to SOU as they weren't under the ownership of IAG when they did operate from SOU and management may take a different view.
Flybe flew from SOU to NCE for years, why did it abruptly stop when so many other regional flights to France have been successful!
Maybe an Iberia flight from Madrid operated by Air Nostrum during the peak summer could work especially when you hear and see so many Spaniards in our region working, living, inbound Tourism, exchange students, etc.
The route network has so much potential from Southampton and the incumbents are not exploiting that opportunity that's why the airport desperately needs to attract new business from alternative airlines.
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There seems to be plenty of destinations not being exploited at Southampton,some have been tried in the past ,but have failed,the question has to be asked is the airport being managed to its full potential? and has there been the investment needed to meet
its potential?
its potential?
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I agree - the fact that the airport can support daily frequency routes to destinations such as Amsterdam, Nantes, Paris, Dublin, Munich show that it can support them else where to far more popular locations. At the end of the day all that needs to happen is to build some big stands and a starter strip. Southampton/Portsmouth is the UKs eight most populated area, the GVA of Hampshire is equivalent to that of Uruguay - so there is demand, but people choose to go to LHR, LGW and LTN constantly!
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And those traveling from either LGW or LHR or even I hate to say LTN would probably use an equivalent route from Southampton if they were available including myself.
The potential at SOU is huge but it's not being exploited enough and for the destinations I had mentioned earlier the aircraft wouldn't need to be any bigger than the current aircraft operating from the airport so a starter strip wouldn't necessarily be needed although obviously having that strip would be a huge long term advantage for the airport.
The potential at SOU is huge but it's not being exploited enough and for the destinations I had mentioned earlier the aircraft wouldn't need to be any bigger than the current aircraft operating from the airport so a starter strip wouldn't necessarily be needed although obviously having that strip would be a huge long term advantage for the airport.
Considering that BMI have stuck it out on the SOU to Munich route for nearly two years now and with consistent loads the airline must be happy with the economics of the route to have sustained it to this point.
With the apparent success of SOU to Munich I am rather surprised that BMI haven't announced any other route or routes even from Southampton, the airline could possibly fly to business destinations currently unserved from the airport and BMI could have a similar but smaller network to their Bristol operation.
With the apparent success of SOU to Munich I am rather surprised that BMI haven't announced any other route or routes even from Southampton, the airline could possibly fly to business destinations currently unserved from the airport and BMI could have a similar but smaller network to their Bristol operation.
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I wasn't in any way suggestion that I know more about the economics of the operation than BMI!
There was no reference in my post to say otherwise, I don't work for BMI so how the hell would I know more about the economics of the operation than BMI!
I was just making remarks based around BMI and SOU and considering you have just way laid into this discussion I suggest that you keep the ridiculous comments like that to yourself.
There was no reference in my post to say otherwise, I don't work for BMI so how the hell would I know more about the economics of the operation than BMI!
I was just making remarks based around BMI and SOU and considering you have just way laid into this discussion I suggest that you keep the ridiculous comments like that to yourself.
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From past history SOU hasn't been that successful in retaining new entrants i.e. Air Berlin, Vueling and even the scheduled flights from Volotea so the fact that BMI have sustained a single route from SOU to MUN for almost two years now the airline must obviously be satisfied with how the route is performing and considering it's just the one route from SOU and the fact that they fly to several business destinations from Bristol that's why I made the comments in my post regarding any possible expansion from SOU on a smaller scale to their operation at Bristol.
I don't think anyone would have thought that BMI would still be on the route and that it has lasted this long looking back at previous attempts by other airlines so the airline are obviously happy with the economics of the route hence my post and the codeshare with Lufthansa is obviously helping to fill the flight.
I'm assuming why your trying to make a point is because this may we'll have something to do with what I had posted on another thread in the past, you saw my username and thought yeah I'll rip into him, I've seen how you work on these threads with other posters but it isn't going to work with me!
I don't think anyone would have thought that BMI would still be on the route and that it has lasted this long looking back at previous attempts by other airlines so the airline are obviously happy with the economics of the route hence my post and the codeshare with Lufthansa is obviously helping to fill the flight.
I'm assuming why your trying to make a point is because this may we'll have something to do with what I had posted on another thread in the past, you saw my username and thought yeah I'll rip into him, I've seen how you work on these threads with other posters but it isn't going to work with me!
C97 - what are you on about? Think your paranoia's showing 
Based on the fact that the route hasn't been dropped, you are assuming it is a success and wonder why BMI haven't expanded.
On the other hand, is it not just as valid to wonder why bmi, with their access to all the data, route planning tools and professionals etc, haven't made any such move?
Based on the fact that the route hasn't been dropped, you are assuming it is a success and wonder why BMI haven't expanded.
On the other hand, is it not just as valid to wonder why bmi, with their access to all the data, route planning tools and professionals etc, haven't made any such move?
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I'm not doubting the professionals at BMI all I was putting across in my post was that I would like to have seen them expand on their current one route operation from SOU which has been present for nearly two years where others have given up in far less a time it's nothing more than that, I'm no bleeding expert matey it was a topic that I brought up so I don't know why your being so dogmatic about it and I can't believe that I'm being interrogated and having to explain myself, I'm that type so you know I'm not responding to any more of your posts because I'm not actually interested in what you think.
I'm not paranoid I'm often referred to as arrogant and over confident but paranoid I'm not!
I'm not paranoid I'm often referred to as arrogant and over confident but paranoid I'm not!
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I think management plays a significant part here. Compare the three airports owned by AGS. Aberdeen, Glasgow and Southampton. All three have failed to truly embrace low cost airlines. All three are very conservative. All three are very "lazy" when it comes to attracting new airlines. While other airports and airport groups are out there banging on the doors of airline, AGS are sitting back waiting for the phone to ring.
Perhaps it stems from the BAA Heathrow days when airline were banging on their door. Sadly these three airports don't have that luxury. Whither AGS have realised that or not is unclear.
Perhaps it stems from the BAA Heathrow days when airline were banging on their door. Sadly these three airports don't have that luxury. Whither AGS have realised that or not is unclear.
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The elephant in the room
https://www.southamptonairport.com/m...pg?w=600&h=140
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Just found this link with a local news paper regarding possible expansion from Southampton this summer with " Lolo flights "
sussexlocal.net then type in Southampton airport ( sorry can't seem to get a direct link , don't know if anyone else can )
sussexlocal.net then type in Southampton airport ( sorry can't seem to get a direct link , don't know if anyone else can )
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If your referring to the Skiathos flight that was ready discussed a few months ago.
Flights by seat only operator LoLo Flights to the Greek island of Skiathos have been on sale since November 2017, flights will be weekly on a Saturday using a chartered Flybe 195.
It's on the Southampton Airport website and has been since the flight was first announced.
Flights by seat only operator LoLo Flights to the Greek island of Skiathos have been on sale since November 2017, flights will be weekly on a Saturday using a chartered Flybe 195.
It's on the Southampton Airport website and has been since the flight was first announced.
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I appreciate you getting involved and making those comments as the exchange of posts with that guy was really seriously starting to annoy me and I'm glad you helped in putting a stop to it :-) (I know exactly what he was upto).
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Canberra , I actually started the original discussion a few months ago when it first stated
I am talking about the article in the magazine dated 11 Dec about possible new routes by Lolo flights to
Almeria , Dubrovnik , Split , Kefalonia , Florence amonst others
I am talking about the article in the magazine dated 11 Dec about possible new routes by Lolo flights to
Almeria , Dubrovnik , Split , Kefalonia , Florence amonst others
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