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I don't think there could be a worse time to submit expansion plans for SOU,with an accerarating " Climate emergency " dominating the headlines ,the prospect of SOU getting planning permission must be rapidly declining on a daily basis.There can't be much of a appetite for LPA to give approval , I think SOU owners and management missed the expansion boat a few years ago.
I don't think there could be a worse time to submit expansion plans for SOU,with an accerarating " Climate emergency " dominating the headlines ,the prospect of SOU getting planning permission must be rapidly declining on a daily basis.There can't be much of a appetite for LPA to give approval , I think SOU owners and management missed the expansion boat a few years ago.
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although I am a fan of your explanations over the years regarding SOU development or should I say up and downs of its rather slow progress,I cannot see that LHR will not get the Third runway given the economics ,however SOU location,severve development restrictions ,and environmental issues,lend it to be a prime candidate to be eventually sold off at a handsome profit to the owners.
although I am a fan of your explanations over the years regarding SOU development or should I say up and downs of its rather slow progress,I cannot see that LHR will not get the Third runway given the economics ,however SOU location,severve development restrictions ,and environmental issues,lend it to be a prime candidate to be eventually sold off at a handsome profit to the owners.
SOU has let the expansion ship sail, and will have more problems now getting PP for any expansions.
Yes they may succeed (hope they do, I use the airport, and I would like more offerings)
but this is last chance saloon to get it right IMHO.
- and as for a 3rd runway at LHR?
NOT gonna happen in our lifetimes...My Tuppence
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A quick look at SOU departures board today is showing 44 flights, compare that to BOU x 5, NWI x 5, EXE x 20, CWL x 19, DSA x 5 & NCL x 44. Not bad for an airport that some say should be consigned to a housing estate. Add a LCC with a select choice of routes and you have a thriving regional!
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A quick look at SOU departures board today is showing 44 flights, compare that to BOU x 5, NWI x 5, EXE x 20, CWL x 19, DSA x 5 & NCL x 44. Not bad for an airport that some say should be consigned to a housing estate. Add a LCC with a select choice of routes and you have a thriving regional!
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A quick look at SOU departures board today is showing 44 flights, compare that to BOU x 5, NWI x 5, EXE x 20, CWL x 19, DSA x 5 & NCL x 44. Not bad for an airport that some say should be consigned to a housing estate. Add a LCC with a select choice of routes and you have a thriving regional!
Yes, its infrastructure has meant that so far it has missed out on most of the UK-Europe LOCO action, but there is a plan in place to change that and vast sums of money are being invested to futureproof the airport. If you're someone who wants to see SOU do well it's actually a pretty positive time. If you're a BOH spotter with a penchant for trolling their local (perceived) rival, perhaps less so.
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If I read it correct, a quick glance on Skyscanner shows BE S20 added and French regions holding up well with the continuation of 8 routes, Verona still in and as expected the removal of med sun. All in all could have been a lot worse with the expected VS cull!
What expected cull? All the comments from Virgin Connect have been about regional connectivity - anyway, from their press release:
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o Increased frequency – Edinburgh (to 5 daily with new early morning departure); Newcastle (to 4 daily); Paris Charles de Gaulle (to 3 daily Mon-Fri and twice daily on Sundays)
o Increased frequency – Edinburgh (to 5 daily with new early morning departure); Newcastle (to 4 daily); Paris Charles de Gaulle (to 3 daily Mon-Fri and twice daily on Sundays)
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Not sure anyone is surprised about Portugal/Spain as everyone had been pre warned about the removal of the 195’s. Düsseldorf is more to do with Flybe closing their overseas base and no reflection on SOU. I am surprised by the French routes being cut but the capacity is more than being made up by additional flying to Edinburgh, Newcastle and Paris CDG. I use CDG a lot so this is welcome news. The MD should’ve focused on that good news instead of talking about the cuts,
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- Faro
- Palma
- Alicante
- Malaga
- Biarritz
- Nantes
- Bordeaux
- Düsseldorf
- Bastia
The regional France routes that look to have survived are BES, AVN, PGF, LIG, RNS, LRH and EGC.
VRN also looks to be still available, 2 weekly WeSa (as this year)
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TLN looks available on Skyscanner 1 weekly Sun!
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This has been on the horizon for years and now leaves the market even more appealing for the forthcoming Orange lot. Interesting that they just snapped up the TCX LGW slots for £36m. Are people on here really going to still be in denial about their forthcoming arrival at SOU? And a base at SOU will cost a lot less than £36m.
So EZY buying more slots at LGW and reducing the flights they operate out of SOU is the sign of an imminent presence? Why have BE dropped the sun routes - maybe they aren't core to the main business, maybe the EMB leases were expensive - but if the margins were there??
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Also maybe worth noting that the press-release; "Flybe, Europe’s largest regional airline, has today (13th November 2019) announced the first phase of its 2020 Summer schedule featuring 104 routes with a total choice of up to 2,500 flights a week across the UK and regional mainland Europe." says that this is their first-phase of the summer 2020 schedule - so maybe other routes will see increase frequency, new destinations or return of destinations?
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At last some sensible words,it's clear that River Joint is living in a dream world,if it was 5 years ago and the runway extension complete,I'm sure that Easy would be based at SOU.However it's whole new ball game now!.The airport missed the great opportunity years ago,the best that SOU can hope for is a few Sun route packages,and thats if and it's a massive if the development plans get approval.
At last some sensible words,it's clear that River Joint is living in a dream world,if it was 5 years ago and the runway extension complete,I'm sure that Easy would be based at SOU.However it's whole new ball game now!.The airport missed the great opportunity years ago,the best that SOU can hope for is a few Sun route packages,and thats if and it's a massive if the development plans get approval.
