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There were complaints before the cargo started and like SOU SEN also have a ban on overnight passengers flights. Never under estimate the residents when they kick off. The council will be mindful of public opinion unlike at Luton where the council owns the airport and doesn’t give a sh*t
I dont think we can compare SEN anymore with SOU.
SEN now have 3 x FR 737-800's and 4 or more EZY A320's based there, plus other daily Airbus's coming in with Wizz starting up, & Air Malta etc -
Stuff that SOU can only ever dream of...
Social media reports vocal objections at the recent roadshow.
It maybe now much harder to get PP through due to the increase in Climate, Noise, and Eco objections, especially after recent events with the climate warriors in London and at LCY.
SOU had opportunities years ago to get this PP through and they stalled it - That ship has now well and truly sailed, and it will likely be an uphill battle to convince planners and locals alike the benefits of the airport expansion now.
God help us now if the LHR 3rd runway starts any serious planning....
And LTN has had night flights in and out since the days of Autair BAC 1-11's going off at 02.00 hours, 3 of them at a time....LOL
SEN now have 3 x FR 737-800's and 4 or more EZY A320's based there, plus other daily Airbus's coming in with Wizz starting up, & Air Malta etc -
Stuff that SOU can only ever dream of...
Social media reports vocal objections at the recent roadshow.
It maybe now much harder to get PP through due to the increase in Climate, Noise, and Eco objections, especially after recent events with the climate warriors in London and at LCY.
SOU had opportunities years ago to get this PP through and they stalled it - That ship has now well and truly sailed, and it will likely be an uphill battle to convince planners and locals alike the benefits of the airport expansion now.
God help us now if the LHR 3rd runway starts any serious planning....
And LTN has had night flights in and out since the days of Autair BAC 1-11's going off at 02.00 hours, 3 of them at a time....LOL
There were complaints before the cargo started and like SOU SEN also have a ban on overnight passengers flights. Never under estimate the residents when they kick off. The council will be mindful of public opinion unlike at Luton where the council owns the airport and doesn’t give a sh*t
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Given work is underway in Marlhill copse for aerodrome safeguarding,will this have any significant improvements to RW20 takeoff restrictions.
Interesting times with the planning permission soon,but I read it might meet huge opposition given the environmental climate!
Given work is underway in Marlhill copse for aerodrome safeguarding,will this have any significant improvements to RW20 takeoff restrictions.
Interesting times with the planning permission soon,but I read it might meet huge opposition given the environmental climate!
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Given work is underway in Marlhill copse for aerodrome safeguarding,will this have any significant improvements to RW20 takeoff restrictions.
Interesting times with the planning permission soon,but I read it might meet huge opposition given the environmental climate!
Given work is underway in Marlhill copse for aerodrome safeguarding,will this have any significant improvements to RW20 takeoff restrictions.
Interesting times with the planning permission soon,but I read it might meet huge opposition given the environmental climate!
It will take about 3-4 months for the improvements to be useable. Once the work is completed the airport's surveyors will need to verify the new obstacle environment, then submit details to NATS who will then produce and publish new Type A charts.
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As always a clear analysis of the ongoing operations .Its clear that the airport owners and management have been woeful in the development potential of the airport up to know. Indeed the present institution seem to be similar,time will tell,but is it to late?
As always a clear analysis of the ongoing operations .Its clear that the airport owners and management have been woeful in the development potential of the airport up to know. Indeed the present institution seem to be similar,time will tell,but is it to late?
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I dont think we can compare SEN anymore with SOU.
SEN now have 3 x FR 737-800's and 4 or more EZY A320's based there, plus other daily Airbus's coming in with Wizz starting up, & Air Malta etc -
Stuff that SOU can only ever dream of...
Social media reports vocal objections at the recent roadshow.
It maybe now much harder to get PP through due to the increase in Climate, Noise, and Eco objections, especially after recent events with the climate warriors in London and at LCY.
SOU had opportunities years ago to get this PP through and they stalled it - That ship has now well and truly sailed, and it will likely be an uphill battle to convince planners and locals alike the benefits of the airport expansion now.
God help us now if the LHR 3rd runway starts any serious planning....
And LTN has had night flights in and out since the days of Autair BAC 1-11's going off at 02.00 hours, 3 of them at a time....LOL
SEN now have 3 x FR 737-800's and 4 or more EZY A320's based there, plus other daily Airbus's coming in with Wizz starting up, & Air Malta etc -
Stuff that SOU can only ever dream of...
Social media reports vocal objections at the recent roadshow.
It maybe now much harder to get PP through due to the increase in Climate, Noise, and Eco objections, especially after recent events with the climate warriors in London and at LCY.
SOU had opportunities years ago to get this PP through and they stalled it - That ship has now well and truly sailed, and it will likely be an uphill battle to convince planners and locals alike the benefits of the airport expansion now.
God help us now if the LHR 3rd runway starts any serious planning....
And LTN has had night flights in and out since the days of Autair BAC 1-11's going off at 02.00 hours, 3 of them at a time....LOL
as to the environmental bollocks, I suppose the whole of London should grind to a standstill including all its airports because some unemployed people are pretending they care about the environment because it’s currently fashionable to do so? The extension will pass through planning as long as it meets all the necessary legal requirements, which judging by the thorough process SOU is going through, it will. Nothing would ever get built if residents and environmentalists had their way, they contribute only a very small part to any proper argument against planning being given.
My only concern is that there is no mention of the terminal upgrades, which presumably are to follow at a later date under a separate planning permission. I really do think they need to expand the security, baggage handling etc before servicing more large jets. The odd one they service now always seems to be on the ground for an unusually long amount of time.
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You are comparing post development SEN with pre development SOU? We absolutely can compare the two airports, not only are they very similar in a lot of ways, but more importantly, they represent opportunities for airlines to keep growing outside the congested big London airports. The airlines need these airports as much as the airports need them. also, don’t forget that the original 2005 master plan did not feature a runway extension from memory. Why might the need for an extension now be necessary? Why would a pension fun owned airport loosen the purse strings without a guaranteed reward? It all points to a low cost operator already being in the wings.
as to the environmental bollocks, I suppose the whole of London should grind to a standstill including all its airports because some unemployed people are pretending they care about the environment because it’s currently fashionable to do so? The extension will pass through planning as long as it meets all the necessary legal requirements, which judging by the thorough process SOU is going through, it will. Nothing would ever get built if residents and environmentalists had their way, they contribute only a very small part to any proper argument against planning being given.
My only concern is that there is no mention of the terminal upgrades, which presumably are to follow at a later date under a separate planning permission. I really do think they need to expand the security, baggage handling etc before servicing more large jets. The odd one they service now always seems to be on the ground for an unusually long amount of time.
RJ and Stewy -
I hear what you say about the comparisons and agree to much of what you both have aforementioned, thanks.
But as to the ''environmental bollocks'' - I'm afraid in this ''eco-age'' nowadays, we will see more and more vociferous objections and pro-action being taken -
As to how that may affect SOU remains to be seen.
I trust it will not impede plans, but we cannot shy away from the facts that Aviation is becoming rather more a tetchy subject with the likes of planners and public.
I hear what you say about the comparisons and agree to much of what you both have aforementioned, thanks.
But as to the ''environmental bollocks'' - I'm afraid in this ''eco-age'' nowadays, we will see more and more vociferous objections and pro-action being taken -
As to how that may affect SOU remains to be seen.
I trust it will not impede plans, but we cannot shy away from the facts that Aviation is becoming rather more a tetchy subject with the likes of planners and public.
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RJ and Stewy -
But as to the ''environmental bollocks'' - I'm afraid in this ''eco-age'' nowadays, we will see more and more vociferous objections and pro-action being taken -
As to how that may affect SOU remains to be seen.
I trust it will not impede plans, but we cannot shy away from the facts that Aviation is becoming rather more a tetchy subject with the likes of planners and public.
But as to the ''environmental bollocks'' - I'm afraid in this ''eco-age'' nowadays, we will see more and more vociferous objections and pro-action being taken -
As to how that may affect SOU remains to be seen.
I trust it will not impede plans, but we cannot shy away from the facts that Aviation is becoming rather more a tetchy subject with the likes of planners and public.
From SOU MD 5 days ago -
A planning application which, if successful, will enable this is in the process of being submitted to Eastleigh Borough Council and is due to go live for public consultation in November...
Not being pedantic but that to me means they are still tuning up for the show....
The Q&A read is worth a peek - scroll down
https://www.southamptonairport.com/m...nwayextension/
A planning application which, if successful, will enable this is in the process of being submitted to Eastleigh Borough Council and is due to go live for public consultation in November...
Not being pedantic but that to me means they are still tuning up for the show....
The Q&A read is worth a peek - scroll down
https://www.southamptonairport.com/m...nwayextension/
More Public SOU master plan consultation open days announced for New Forest residents.
Flybe's new owners Virgin Connect have hinted they are intending to replace the Dash 8
Plus the chief executive Mark Anderson said the airline could stop flying between regional airports where the journey can be made easily by train or car due to climate reasons -
Well that's a great start for SOU then, plus a bit of an own goal for VC in ''Flight shaming'' themselves.
Goodness, the Eco movements are so going to love that one LOL
Flybe's new owners Virgin Connect have hinted they are intending to replace the Dash 8
Plus the chief executive Mark Anderson said the airline could stop flying between regional airports where the journey can be made easily by train or car due to climate reasons -
Well that's a great start for SOU then, plus a bit of an own goal for VC in ''Flight shaming'' themselves.
Goodness, the Eco movements are so going to love that one LOL
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More Public SOU master plan consultation open days announced for New Forest residents.
Flybe's new owners Virgin Connect have hinted they are intending to replace the Dash 8
Plus the chief executive Mark Anderson said the airline could stop flying between regional airports where the journey can be made easily by train or car due to climate reasons -
Well that's a great start for SOU then, plus a bit of an own goal for VC in ''Flight shaming'' themselves.
Goodness, the Eco movements are so going to love that one LOL
Flybe's new owners Virgin Connect have hinted they are intending to replace the Dash 8
Plus the chief executive Mark Anderson said the airline could stop flying between regional airports where the journey can be made easily by train or car due to climate reasons -
Well that's a great start for SOU then, plus a bit of an own goal for VC in ''Flight shaming'' themselves.
Goodness, the Eco movements are so going to love that one LOL
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They can’t submit any application until they run the consultation events and write up a Statement of Community Involvement - if they don’t do that it would be refused straight away. Nowadays 90% of the work is done before the submission of the formal application to avoid delays because of government targets blah blah following the embarrassment of the Heathrow T5 inquiry.
Just wondered if FLYBE have dumped SOU-VRN next Summer?
Inghams Holidays shows they fly on WEDS and SATS for their package holidays to Lake Garda
Flt nos. BE1223/1224 but are these charters then?
Thanks R.
Inghams Holidays shows they fly on WEDS and SATS for their package holidays to Lake Garda
Flt nos. BE1223/1224 but are these charters then?
Thanks R.
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