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Personally, I think that there should be some concern about the Easy jet figures when you consider that their monthly traffic stats for January showed a load factor across their network at 93% - an average of 101 passengers per flight from Southampton falls far short of that.
Yes - why not? That's the alternative use that EZY have for the a/c. The consistent narrative on this thread is that SOU is a peach waiting to be plucked by EZY - these figures don't inspire confidence in that view.
Highly likely that all of Flybe's January GVA'a went out on average with 75 out of 78 pax
- it's peak ski time and several large Ski Companies Inghams, Crystal etc take large bulk allocations
EZY's GVA range from 156 seats on A319 to 180/186 seats on the A320 - Their 3 weekly flights are a mix of the smaller A319 and the larger A320
- it's peak ski time and several large Ski Companies Inghams, Crystal etc take large bulk allocations
EZY's GVA range from 156 seats on A319 to 180/186 seats on the A320 - Their 3 weekly flights are a mix of the smaller A319 and the larger A320
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Actual loads as follows:
EasyJet carried 3398 of the SOU total over 28 flights, giving an average of 121 pax per flight.
Flybe carried 1237 pax on 24 flights, giving an average of 52 pax per flight.
Last January the easyJet average was 117 per flight, and the Flybe average was 70 per flight.
Flybe appear to be feeling the effects of the competition now as their loads are considerably lower this season.
No BOH figures for comparison yet, but their January average last year was 122 per flight.
For info, this January SEN averaged 114 per flight based on flightaware and CAA data. Other airports ranged from mid 130s to low 140s.
EasyJet carried 3398 of the SOU total over 28 flights, giving an average of 121 pax per flight.
Flybe carried 1237 pax on 24 flights, giving an average of 52 pax per flight.
Last January the easyJet average was 117 per flight, and the Flybe average was 70 per flight.
Flybe appear to be feeling the effects of the competition now as their loads are considerably lower this season.
No BOH figures for comparison yet, but their January average last year was 122 per flight.
For info, this January SEN averaged 114 per flight based on flightaware and CAA data. Other airports ranged from mid 130s to low 140s.
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Well there you have it the exact figures as posted above
Some of you need to take your blood pressure pills , it’s nothing to get that worked up about
The drama with the diversions actually happened in February so those figures when published may or may not be taken into account
Some of you need to take your blood pressure pills , it’s nothing to get that worked up about
The drama with the diversions actually happened in February so those figures when published may or may not be taken into account
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After the announcement of the new Aurigny service to Guernsey, I’ve been looking at how many flights will be on offer between SOU and the Channel Islands in summer 19.
Fridays appear to be the busiest day when there are planned to be 28 flights to/from the three islands:
4 Aurigny Guernsey,
10 Blue Islands Guernsey,
8 Blue Islands Jersey,
2 Flybe Jersey,
4 Aurigny Alderney.
Auringy appear to increase to 12 daily flights to/from Alderney over some weekends in August, increasing the total to 36 flights on those Fridays. Quite a number of flights on offer to the Islands this summer!
Fridays appear to be the busiest day when there are planned to be 28 flights to/from the three islands:
4 Aurigny Guernsey,
10 Blue Islands Guernsey,
8 Blue Islands Jersey,
2 Flybe Jersey,
4 Aurigny Alderney.
Auringy appear to increase to 12 daily flights to/from Alderney over some weekends in August, increasing the total to 36 flights on those Fridays. Quite a number of flights on offer to the Islands this summer!
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Call me cynical but the departures of KLM/AerLingus might just be the decks being cleared before a LCC comes in next year. Of course I’m sure I am completely wrong but it does fit with the expansion plans and an airport with VS/BE, Aurigny, LCC and a bit of Volotea/Flylolo won’t leave room for much else!
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Hmm not sure, why would the airport voluntarily get rid of traffic, passengers and revenue?
Southampton isn’t Heathrow, it’s not slot or capacity restricted. I’m sure any additional carriers could have been accommodated even with KLM and Aer Lingus still there.
Southampton isn’t Heathrow, it’s not slot or capacity restricted. I’m sure any additional carriers could have been accommodated even with KLM and Aer Lingus still there.
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You are probably right, just a thought that popped in to my head that it might have suited both parties. Ams could be filled by a LCC and Cork services via the new Connect tie in with Stobart
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Given the P2P demand on SOU-AMS I’d like to think that if SOU gets a Loco that’s one of the routes they’d do.
On the Cork thread there was surprise expressed at the dropping of ORK-SOU as their perception was that the route had been performing well and the reasons for it (aircraft reshuffle etc) don’t appear clear at the moment. The optimist in me hopes that Flybe/Virgin Connect pick this up as they already operate to Cork from Cardiff, freeing up the Aer Lingus aircraft at Cork.
If a reduction was necessary I’m surprised it wasn’t a trimming of off-season capacity as in the summer those flights were chocka.
On the Cork thread there was surprise expressed at the dropping of ORK-SOU as their perception was that the route had been performing well and the reasons for it (aircraft reshuffle etc) don’t appear clear at the moment. The optimist in me hopes that Flybe/Virgin Connect pick this up as they already operate to Cork from Cardiff, freeing up the Aer Lingus aircraft at Cork.
If a reduction was necessary I’m surprised it wasn’t a trimming of off-season capacity as in the summer those flights were chocka.
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Any idea of the interview with the head of passenger operations today on ITV Meridian news at the airport , says all will be revealed on Wednesday on the airport Twitter page
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The loss of KLM and Air Lingus is some blow to Southampton expansion,it seems one step forward and two back!.The plans for expansion have not even been approved yet!
If and when they are approved,it's going to take some time before the airport gets increased traffic .This is only if Easy or other big carriers are attracted,it's not a forgone conclusion,so let's not jump ahead just yet.
If and when they are approved,it's going to take some time before the airport gets increased traffic .This is only if Easy or other big carriers are attracted,it's not a forgone conclusion,so let's not jump ahead just yet.
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The loss of KLM and Air Lingus is some blow to Southampton expansion,it seems one step forward and two back!.The plans for expansion have not even been approved yet!
If and when they are approved,it's going to take some time before the airport gets increased traffic .This is only if Easy or other big carriers are attracted,it's not a forgone conclusion,so let's not jump ahead just yet.
If and when they are approved,it's going to take some time before the airport gets increased traffic .This is only if Easy or other big carriers are attracted,it's not a forgone conclusion,so let's not jump ahead just yet.
Flybe shareholders voted to accept the deal yesterday - We will have to wait now to see if Virgin Connect remains loyal to SOU
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With SOU being its largest base (by routes) and one of the most profitable, you would hope that it has a strong future in any plans for the new business. With the code share announced yesterday by VS/KLM/AF/Delta, this could continue to see good numbers from the airport to the hubs of AMS/CDG/MAN etc. However I can foresee regional France and the sun destinations being reduced as not core business for the new model.
I wonder if the VS/DL code share deal with KLM/AF includes Virgin Connect feeding pax from say SOU EXT BHX and NWI to AMS and CDG on to their long haul routes?
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My prediction is for one of the following:
An announcement of the terminal extension;
A new route (or possibly routes) for summer 19;
A new burger in the lounge for a limited time only;
Fresh citrus urinal cakes for the landslide gents’ toilet.
Cue crazy speculation/SOU bashing/unashamed trolling!
(...basically the common themes on this thread!)
I wonder if the VS/DL code share deal with KLM/AF includes Virgin Connect feeding pax from say SOU EXT BHX and NWI to AMS and CDG on to their long haul routes?
https://www.airfranceklm.com/en/news...re-partnership