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This is not a blame game. Airport property or not, surely the airport/council/private land owner has a moral duty to ensure the safety of passengers and crew that fly above it. Merely stating a fact and it won’t be too long before the approach lights are totally engulfed!
This is not a blame game. Airport property or not, surely the airport/council/private land owner has a moral duty to ensure the safety of passengers and crew that fly above it. Merely stating a fact and it won’t be too long before the approach lights are totally engulfed!
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While not on airport controlled land, the airport operator is responsible for maintaining the approach lights, which includes vegetation removal to ensure that they are visible to aircraft. The airport operator does have an access right to the land for maintenance purposes. I believe that the land is owned by Southampton City Council.
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Just picked up today's Daily Echo with the headline "City Airport Expansion Plans". Maybe a glimmer of hope for traffic growth with a planned 170 metre runway extension to the north, albeit will probably only be usable as a starter strip for 20.
Should improve the runway 20 figures (unless CAA insist on a standard Runway End Safety Area at the south end, rather than the current fudge) which would swallow up part of the usable 170 metres. If the status quo is maintained with the RESA the extension will permit declaration of 1799 metres take-off run for 20, which is the same as Southend but with the slight advantage of a greater landing distance than Southend. Enough to persuade Easy to expand? All then needed is parking space for them!
Should improve the runway 20 figures (unless CAA insist on a standard Runway End Safety Area at the south end, rather than the current fudge) which would swallow up part of the usable 170 metres. If the status quo is maintained with the RESA the extension will permit declaration of 1799 metres take-off run for 20, which is the same as Southend but with the slight advantage of a greater landing distance than Southend. Enough to persuade Easy to expand? All then needed is parking space for them!
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SOU on BBC news South
Edit: BBC summary
A small nominal runway extension, and a new taxiway, but no larger aircraft, but existing types will be able to reach further destinations (with less WAT limits)
They did not mention anymore stands.
SOU want to double pax numbers within 10 years to 4m pa.
More car parking.
Neighbours will be concerned of increased noise and pollution.
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A quick glance shows a terminal extension which includes a new enclosed walkway to all the aircraft stands 1 -12 and a bus transfer to the remaining 2 stands
A new arrival facility wrapped around the end of Stand 1 and the terminal , which looks like it will include a new immigration hall and baggage reclaim , however looking at the plans it comes at the expense of an aircraft stand , taking them down to 13 stands now , which will be upgraded , and no more plans for any more aircraft stands until 2027 .
A new arrival facility wrapped around the end of Stand 1 and the terminal , which looks like it will include a new immigration hall and baggage reclaim , however looking at the plans it comes at the expense of an aircraft stand , taking them down to 13 stands now , which will be upgraded , and no more plans for any more aircraft stands until 2027 .
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If you look at the master plan you will see that Stand 1 has been relocated to where the blast barrier is at the end of the manoeuvring area in the cul-de-sac. I think this is really good news for SOU.
" The space is there to reduce from five narrow Stands to four that could take A320s"
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Great news if this all actually happens and about time to but I wonder if they have a particular airline that's interested in expanding from SOU for this to actually materialise and more importantly to be announced in the way that it has.
I'm awaiting the response from RW20 :-)
Hopefully with this recent news from the management team at SOU we can put a stop to the continuous posts regarding what SOU should do regarding airside investment.
I'm awaiting the response from RW20 :-)
Hopefully with this recent news from the management team at SOU we can put a stop to the continuous posts regarding what SOU should do regarding airside investment.
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Either easyJet or Jet2 could possibly come in with up to 7/8 based aircraft which would be a game changer. An 8 aircraft base would provide 2m seats which is about what they are projecting by 2027,
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737-800 series is fire Cat 7 so I think the airport for now will be looking for Cat 6 aircraft like the A320 etc, AFS cost a lot of money so to increase them for one of two daily schedule movements wouldn't be worth it.
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At last something to talk about !
We have seen masterplans come and go in the past,it will become clear over the next few weeks after the consultation period if this a go or not!.One thing is clear and that is this plan is totally necessary for the airport long term existance!
We have seen masterplans come and go in the past,it will become clear over the next few weeks after the consultation period if this a go or not!.One thing is clear and that is this plan is totally necessary for the airport long term existance!
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At last something to talk about !
We have seen masterplans come and go in the past,it will become clear over the next few weeks after the consultation period if this a go or not!.One thing is clear and that is this plan is totally necessary for the airport long term existance!
We have seen masterplans come and go in the past,it will become clear over the next few weeks after the consultation period if this a go or not!.One thing is clear and that is this plan is totally necessary for the airport long term existance!
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Look at the comparative runway declared distances with SEN, SOU's should be better in may respects. The NG 737-800s with shortfield kit (necessary for SEN?) should fit. SEN also have a Section 106 planning restriction which limits night flights.
Talking of -800s, you don't make much money from the gobby leprachaun's outfit, they want everything for next to nothing. Hopefully if M-ABJA pitches up soon, they give him a cup of tea before showing him the door!
Look at the comparative runway declared distances with SEN, SOU's should be better in may respects. The NG 737-800s with shortfield kit (necessary for SEN?) should fit. SEN also have a Section 106 planning restriction which limits night flights.
Talking of -800s, you don't make much money from the gobby leprachaun's outfit, they want everything for next to nothing. Hopefully if M-ABJA pitches up soon, they give him a cup of tea before showing him the door!