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Old 28th Sep 2018, 08:28
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No need to expand when there is spare capacity in the region.. hat coat shut door.....
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 08:50
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Wonder how many stick to their principles and NEVER fly anywhere - or is it only other people's flights that are harmful?
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 13:11
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Originally Posted by milhouse999
TUI have added a Thursday NCL - CFU from next summer according to their schedule, leaving at 0600hrs. This brings the Corfu route up to 4 days a week with various airlines. Good news for us as we use the route 6 times a year. Anyone know what it's replaced?
They have a Thursday flight on this years schedule so can only assume itís a slot adjustment.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 18:06
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TCX 2019

Thomas Cook sent a memo to cabin crew that the A320 has been dropped for 2019 and is down to 2x A321

it stated that the group had to reduce ACMI partners from 23 to 15 and that analysis showed NCL to be the least profitable in the UK.

Room for Jet2 to add another 738 ?

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Old 28th Sep 2018, 20:52
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Originally Posted by LiamNCL
Thomas Cook sent a memo to cabin crew that the A320 has been dropped for 2019 and is down to 2x A321

it stated that the group had to reduce ACMI partners from 23 to 15 and that analysis showed NCL to be the least profitable in the UK.

Room for Jet2 to add another 738 ?
I assume not. Could be some big decline in pax numbers at this rate.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 21:02
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Originally Posted by GrahamK
I assume not. Could be some big decline in pax numbers at this rate.
Poor from Thomas Cook the flights were loaded for 2019 with a Thursday TFS added. Seems like they have shook things up since their profit warnings and ultimatley ACMI aircraft have cut back with NCL suffering the only UK Casualty.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 21:05
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No need to expand when there is spare capacity in the region.. hat coat shut door.....
No need at all to get your coat or shut any doors, N707. You're right.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 21:51
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No need at all to get your coat or shut any doors, N707. You're right.
Not really - the Greens are against the increase in flights, they will pollute wherever they fly from.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 22:28
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Originally Posted by LiamNCL
Poor from Thomas Cook the flights were loaded for 2019 with a Thursday TFS added. Seems like they have shook things up since their profit warnings and ultimatley ACMI aircraft have cut back with NCL suffering the only UK Casualty.
Not strictly true if you look at my post on the BHX thread. BHX lost 7 weekly flights (including two destinations) yesterday from the 2019 schedule and although this only equates to half a based unit (6 were away based and one night based flight) it is still a significant loss but granted not as bad as Newcastle. I have not checked across the fleet about other loses and it is difficult at times to tell as I don't know the full schedules coupled with the fact that some threads don't post bad news due to excessive use of rose tinted glasses.

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Old 28th Sep 2018, 23:40
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Originally Posted by OltonPete
Not strictly true if you look at my post on the BHX thread. BHX lost 7 weekly flights (including two destinations) yesterday from the 2019 schedule and although this only equates to half a based unit (6 were away based and one night based flight) it is still a significant loss but granted not as bad as Newcastle. I have not checked across the fleet about other loses and it is difficult at times to tell as I don't know the full schedules coupled with the fact that some threads don't post bad news due to excessive use of rose tinted glasses.

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Didnt realise BHX had lost a good handful aswell although we lost a based A320 , 3 out of 7 days this summer one of our based aircraft did a W pattern which isnt the case next summer at least.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 08:08
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Originally Posted by GrahamK
I assume not. Could be some big decline in pax numbers at this rate.
To quote my 'locally produced' wife - "Tell'em that because of oor grand Summa, we're aal gannin' back to wor Whitley Bee an' the Spanna Wullie."
You can take the girl out of Northumberland but -. - -.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 20:21
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Originally Posted by LiamNCL
Thomas Cook sent a memo to cabin crew that the A320 has been dropped for 2019 and is down to 2x A321

it stated that the group had to reduce ACMI partners from 23 to 15 and that analysis showed NCL to be the least profitable in the UK.

Room for Jet2 to add another 738 ?
Flew ACE-NCL mid-july on an A321 and counted 18 spare seats (that I could see). Sunday lunchtime flight so no dodgy flight times. Can't be good for mid-summer so perhaps a sign of sensible adjustments for next year.

Also, was under the impression that the ACMI partners were a cost saving measure over operating own metal. Anyone correct this?

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Old 29th Sep 2018, 22:42
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Originally Posted by L66MBD
Flew ACE-NCL mid-july on an A321 and counted 18 spare seats (that I could see). Sunday lunchtime flight so no dodgy flight times. Can't be good for mid-summer so perhaps a sign of sensible adjustments for next year.

Also, was under the impression that the ACMI partners were a cost saving measure over operating own metal. Anyone correct this?

cheers
The NCL A320 made profit just not as much as other bases & the group decided to cut their partners down for 2019 imagine a big cut in Germany.
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 01:21
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How do you know this? # just asking
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 07:22
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Originally Posted by L66MBD
How do you know this? # just asking
how do i know what ? that its dropped ? I was shown a email from commercial support sent to NCL cabin crew. Routes like MAH REU BJV BOJ EFL no longer on the system either. The insist they are fully committed to Newcastle with two based A321 & 400,000 seats on sale for summer 2019.
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 08:26
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Anyone know why Flybe/Eastern seem to have had 1-2 flights cancelled per day over the last 2/3 weeks? Cardiff especially seems to be cancelled quite frequently.
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 08:27
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Originally Posted by LiamNCL
Thomas Cook sent a memo to cabin crew that the A320 has been dropped for 2019 and is down to 2x A321

it stated that the group had to reduce ACMI partners from 23 to 15 and that analysis showed NCL to be the least profitable in the UK.

Room for Jet2 to add another 738 ?
Quite surprising. Will we be getting anything on a W pattern, perhaps?
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 14:03
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Thomas cook havenít had a good week announcing 2018 profits much less than expected and share price Nearly at an all time low.


So the positives for NCL are that we canít have solely contributed to the groupís poor performance AND at least the operation here was profitable (albeit other bases were more profitable).

The empty seats this summer ties in with their trading update - hot summer and world
Cup so people staying at home or booking late. I was surprised at the number of empty seats on a BY 757 to RHO in 2000 mid summer but that flight continues to operate today.

However, IIRC in 2001 when JMC and First Choice ďcolludedĒ to shut the Ncl AIr 2000 base and just share the JMC 757, Thomson responded by basing a 767 and increased this in 2003 to a 763.

So, perhaps TUI or Jet2 will respond by increasing capacity.

reports have suggested that the 7/14 night holiday has died over recent years and flexible durations were the way to go. If TC aren't able to do this anymore from NCL with only 2 aircraft may get more difficult for them.

But, Iím not sure if the massive debt that A former MD loaded the airport with is still there but it would be interesting to know if this affects the airports ability to offer incentives to operators.

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Old 30th Sep 2018, 17:49
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They will have to now edit the programme
lets hope routes aren't dropped just cut frequencies
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 18:01
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lets hope routes aren't dropped just cut frequencies
Why? Higher frequencies on fewer routes gived the customer more flexibility on the duration of their stay which might be more profitable
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