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EastMids is correct in so much as Manchester is not, and never will be, the alternative to the provision of an extra runway(s) in the London area. It will find and create it's own market for the future.
I would hope that Hainan is over 90% plus full with the fares they have been charging. Beijing for under £350 is excellent for passengers if not for yield.
Manchester United, Manchester City and Liverpool do indeed have a massive fan base in the Fare East, the problem is that whilst they number in their millions, most don't have the money to travel to Europe. Hence, the reason these teams do a Far East pre-season tour every two years.
Garuda have been flying into the EU for about three or four years now with daily flights from Jakarta to both Amsterdam and London. They code-share to Manchester using the KLM service.
I would hope that Hainan is over 90% plus full with the fares they have been charging. Beijing for under £350 is excellent for passengers if not for yield.
Manchester United, Manchester City and Liverpool do indeed have a massive fan base in the Fare East, the problem is that whilst they number in their millions, most don't have the money to travel to Europe. Hence, the reason these teams do a Far East pre-season tour every two years.
Garuda have been flying into the EU for about three or four years now with daily flights from Jakarta to both Amsterdam and London. They code-share to Manchester using the KLM service.
EastMids is correct in so much as Manchester is not, and never will be, the alternative to the provision of an extra runway(s) in the London area. It will find and create it's own market for the future.
I would hope that Hainan is over 90% plus full with the fares they have been charging. Beijing for under £350 is excellent for passengers if not for yield.
Manchester United, Manchester City and Liverpool do indeed have a massive fan base in the Fare East, the problem is that whilst they number in their millions, most don't have the money to travel to Europe. Hence, the reason these teams do a Far East pre-season tour every two years.
Garuda have been flying into the EU for about three or four years now with daily flights from Jakarta to both Amsterdam and London. They code-share to Manchester using the KLM service.
I would hope that Hainan is over 90% plus full with the fares they have been charging. Beijing for under £350 is excellent for passengers if not for yield.
Manchester United, Manchester City and Liverpool do indeed have a massive fan base in the Fare East, the problem is that whilst they number in their millions, most don't have the money to travel to Europe. Hence, the reason these teams do a Far East pre-season tour every two years.
Garuda have been flying into the EU for about three or four years now with daily flights from Jakarta to both Amsterdam and London. They code-share to Manchester using the KLM service.
Re Garuda, correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they wet leased due not being allowed into on their own metal?
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2 new Norwegian routes to Tenerife and Gran Canaria, both 2 weekly each starting Nov 1st and Oct 30th respectively.
Winter now sees 7 routes and 17 weekly flights so far.
No sign of BCN at this time but not expected to run this winter, and they had applied for slots to do 4 weekly CPH, but I think the slot request may have changed to do the 2 Spanish routes instead.
Great news though.
Winter now sees 7 routes and 17 weekly flights so far.
No sign of BCN at this time but not expected to run this winter, and they had applied for slots to do 4 weekly CPH, but I think the slot request may have changed to do the 2 Spanish routes instead.
Great news though.
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2 new Norwegian routes to Tenerife and Gran Canaria, both 2 weekly each starting Nov 1st and Oct 30th respectively.
Winter now sees 7 routes and 17 weekly flights so far.
No sign of BCN at this time but not expected to run this winter, and they had applied for slots to do 4 weekly CPH, but I think the slot request may have changed to do the 2 Spanish routes instead.
Winter now sees 7 routes and 17 weekly flights so far.
No sign of BCN at this time but not expected to run this winter, and they had applied for slots to do 4 weekly CPH, but I think the slot request may have changed to do the 2 Spanish routes instead.
New Routes:
eff 30OCT16 Manchester – Gran Canaria/Las Palmas 2 weekly
eff 01NOV16 Manchester – Tenerife South 2 weekly
Other service expansion:
Manchester – Alicante service converts from summer-only to year-round, 2 weekly
Manchester – Malaga service converts from summer-only to year-round, 4 weekly
eff 30OCT16 Manchester – Gran Canaria/Las Palmas 2 weekly
eff 01NOV16 Manchester – Tenerife South 2 weekly
Other service expansion:
Manchester – Alicante service converts from summer-only to year-round, 2 weekly
Manchester – Malaga service converts from summer-only to year-round, 4 weekly
Yes, Manchester delay statistics are not the best to start with FLIGHTONTIME.info - Manchester Airport Flight Delays & Punctuality
I agree with LAX LHR on the event reporting. Stations, theatres and other venues are being evacuated every other day- there are more important things in this world than this to report on in a short bulletin.
Maybe if this thread stuck to genuine news items about MAN instead of tunnels,HMRC, accountancy, Syria, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I fully understand the wider financial implications, but I still don't think this is the correct forum for this. It is the same points of view being repeated over and over again. Can we not give it a rest before this thread gets locked again? It is the ONLY airport thread on Pprune that is bogged down in this stuff.
I agree with LAX LHR on the event reporting. Stations, theatres and other venues are being evacuated every other day- there are more important things in this world than this to report on in a short bulletin.
Maybe if this thread stuck to genuine news items about MAN instead of tunnels,HMRC, accountancy, Syria, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I fully understand the wider financial implications, but I still don't think this is the correct forum for this. It is the same points of view being repeated over and over again. Can we not give it a rest before this thread gets locked again? It is the ONLY airport thread on Pprune that is bogged down in this stuff.
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Funny thing about the stats is that T3 carriers who want it because of quick access to runway and all that they are some of the worst performing carriers compared to T1/T2 operations.
Now I know it's not clear cut but just saying...
Now I know it's not clear cut but just saying...
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philbky,
A good post. Perhaps Mr. A Tis would feel more at home on the spotters page? Airports do not exist in isolation after all. They need resilient ground transport links.....And fuse-boxes.
A good post. Perhaps Mr. A Tis would feel more at home on the spotters page? Airports do not exist in isolation after all. They need resilient ground transport links.....And fuse-boxes.
One thing I am not is a spotter.
If every single Airline Airports & Routes thread was filled with items about fuse boxes, the north south chip on shoulder , Syria, Sheffield tunnels etc then PPRune would cease to exist.
In a way, fortunately, only the Manchester Thread is filled with this stuff.
You all make very good valuable points, my gripe is that you fill these pages by repeating them over and over and over and over again...
ie Boring & you make us look like whinging Northerners.
As a frequent premium user of the airport, you don't appear to want to talk about the overcrowding in T3, the fact it's impossible to drop people off at times, even on a "quiet" Saturday afternoon traffic is backed up onto the M56. Simply the airport at times can barely cope with it's current level of customers and improvements could take up to 10 years. As a customer of the airport, for me it would be better not to see any more new "tails" as somebody put it, until it can cope better.
On that basis I shall depart this thread & leave you to grumble about Government funding amongst yourselves- it appears this is what you want.
If every single Airline Airports & Routes thread was filled with items about fuse boxes, the north south chip on shoulder , Syria, Sheffield tunnels etc then PPRune would cease to exist.
In a way, fortunately, only the Manchester Thread is filled with this stuff.
You all make very good valuable points, my gripe is that you fill these pages by repeating them over and over and over and over again...
ie Boring & you make us look like whinging Northerners.
As a frequent premium user of the airport, you don't appear to want to talk about the overcrowding in T3, the fact it's impossible to drop people off at times, even on a "quiet" Saturday afternoon traffic is backed up onto the M56. Simply the airport at times can barely cope with it's current level of customers and improvements could take up to 10 years. As a customer of the airport, for me it would be better not to see any more new "tails" as somebody put it, until it can cope better.
On that basis I shall depart this thread & leave you to grumble about Government funding amongst yourselves- it appears this is what you want.
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Mr A Tis, I totally agree with you.
The ongoing arguments about infrastructure, funding, being the chosen alternative to Heathrow etc are both tedious and pointless.
Manchester should focus on its own problems which, as you rightly point out, are here and now! To think that we are going to have to put up with the status quo for the next 10 years or so is ridiculous.
Unfortunately, MAG should have done something about the terminals a long, long time ago.
I flew through Dublin last week, which handles about 10% more passengers than Manchester, the security area was very busy but very efficient. It is easy to get between Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 and it was airy and light with plenty of space and seating.
As I sat there I just wondered why is it taking Manchester 10 years to produce some improvements when Dublin did it in a fraction of the time. I also wondered, why isn't Manchester better than this now!
The ongoing arguments about infrastructure, funding, being the chosen alternative to Heathrow etc are both tedious and pointless.
Manchester should focus on its own problems which, as you rightly point out, are here and now! To think that we are going to have to put up with the status quo for the next 10 years or so is ridiculous.
Unfortunately, MAG should have done something about the terminals a long, long time ago.
I flew through Dublin last week, which handles about 10% more passengers than Manchester, the security area was very busy but very efficient. It is easy to get between Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 and it was airy and light with plenty of space and seating.
As I sat there I just wondered why is it taking Manchester 10 years to produce some improvements when Dublin did it in a fraction of the time. I also wondered, why isn't Manchester better than this now!
As I sat there I just wondered why is it taking Manchester 10 years to produce some improvements when Dublin did it in a fraction of the time. I also wondered, why isn't Manchester better than this now!
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Manchester Airport has had years to improve and has failed to do so. Regardless of public funding it appears MAG has preferred to return a dividend to it's local authority stakeholders rather than invest.
Dublin may have its problems but it is miles ahead over Manchester in terms of passenger experience.
Dublin may have its problems but it is miles ahead over Manchester in terms of passenger experience.