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Yes IAG - International Airlines Group - News Release
Ie. The JV carriers are BA/AA/IB/AY plus former US Air Trans Atlantic operations.
The time scale for Aer Lingus to join OneWorld and for signing the JV is still to advised and currently the Aer Lingus - Atlantic partners remain United and JetBlue !
They are however codesharing with BA on Uk-Eire and select routes going East beyond Heathrow !
So right now Aer Lingus continue to compete against BA/AA
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There is no revenue sharing between EI and AA. So BA/IAG make money whether people route with AA or EI, but more with EI (if they're being run for profit at this time). However, it makes AA's effort to establish and maintain a MAN market more difficult which despite operational issues this year they have made a decent stab at eg all wide body fleet and the newest aircraft of any airline operating transatlantic from MAN. My point was that just like in the past when BA only operated long haul from anywhere other than London to thwart growth at that location, today the tactics and names have changed, but the outcome is the same. BA remains an obstacle to airlines growing at MAN despite them having zero interest in providing a service themselves.
I've used both Rouge & Air Canada. Usually these flights arrive into MAN early, but from my experience always leave an hour or so late.
Why is the ROU/AC turnaround so poor? Wish they would get it sorted.
When they were in T1 & now in T2 always ground floor check in, also a pain when everything is geared to dropping off at departures, with no MAN facility to drop off free into "arrivals"
I went out last week on AC pretty full & great to have business class at a premium Eco price. The 27 year old aircraft was in good shape internally. Returning Wednesday on Rouge and sadly it just won't be the same on board.
Why is the ROU/AC turnaround so poor? Wish they would get it sorted.
When they were in T1 & now in T2 always ground floor check in, also a pain when everything is geared to dropping off at departures, with no MAN facility to drop off free into "arrivals"
I went out last week on AC pretty full & great to have business class at a premium Eco price. The 27 year old aircraft was in good shape internally. Returning Wednesday on Rouge and sadly it just won't be the same on board.
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Could a TCX-configured A332 definitely make MAN-CPT work (operationally & financially) in both directions? I'd say it would be marginal - even though it's only a shade further than LGW-CPT.
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The SQ changes are great news. I'm surprised it isn't an A350 route though, as it seems perfect for it (The A350 is no cargo slouch, either).
Sad to hear about GOT - it made for a handy starting point for ex EU trips and was a lovely flight on a rare aircraft.
Sad to hear about GOT - it made for a handy starting point for ex EU trips and was a lovely flight on a rare aircraft.
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Ex EU? GOT is in Sweden which is in the EU (Norway isn't, might be that you're thinking of?). GOT is also a small airport so not very good for onward connections unless you were going to places that already have direct flights from MAN (OSL, ARN, HEL, etc).
Shame to see them go though. I've always been under the impression the route was sustained by Astra Zeneca (who have a big office in Mölndal outside of Gothenburg as well as a facility south of Manchester). Might be that Astra have either reduced or stop buying seats and that made the route unsustainable? When I've checked it has seemed the prices are always considerably higher on that route compared to via any of the european hubs (although I suppose they might have been able to get good yields out of the people who were prepared to pay for direct).
Shame to see them go though. I've always been under the impression the route was sustained by Astra Zeneca (who have a big office in Mölndal outside of Gothenburg as well as a facility south of Manchester). Might be that Astra have either reduced or stop buying seats and that made the route unsustainable? When I've checked it has seemed the prices are always considerably higher on that route compared to via any of the european hubs (although I suppose they might have been able to get good yields out of the people who were prepared to pay for direct).
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Re: GOT
You're right about Astra Zeneca having major presences in both cities. Astra of Gotenburg and Zeneca (formerly ICI Pharmaceuticals) joined together to form AZ back in the day.
From friends who work there I know they travel much less than they used to.
EZY tried it but that was too much aeroplane and BA are just too expensive for anyone other than the corporates.
FlyBe is the right airline for this route - there is business to be had on MAN-GOT but only with the right airline / aircraft offering.
You're right about Astra Zeneca having major presences in both cities. Astra of Gotenburg and Zeneca (formerly ICI Pharmaceuticals) joined together to form AZ back in the day.
From friends who work there I know they travel much less than they used to.
EZY tried it but that was too much aeroplane and BA are just too expensive for anyone other than the corporates.
FlyBe is the right airline for this route - there is business to be had on MAN-GOT but only with the right airline / aircraft offering.
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Interesting article on the MEN website today regarding the locations that are used to the vehicles belonging to airport customers using the so-called "Meet And Greet" services.
Not good. More investment in MSCPs required, methinks.
Not good. More investment in MSCPs required, methinks.
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Manchester performs poorly when compared to its peers in usage of public transport to access the Airport. It needs to concentrate on better use of available public transport, not facilitating more car use.
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The issue is eyes2ey5, what more can Manchester do?
It is already one of the best connected airports on a mixed mode basis. It's connected to heavy rail which is already close to the limits on the section up to Piccadilly, it has a tram service that starts at 3am, national coach services, buses and then directly connected to the motorway network.
The only weak spot really is trains going south, but given how much of a fuss Arriva had to make to get more north wales, just how much fuss will be needed for Southbound trains is anyone's guess, especially as it seems even 4 platforms are very busy.
What else can they do other than subsidise ground transport to make it more attractive?
It is already one of the best connected airports on a mixed mode basis. It's connected to heavy rail which is already close to the limits on the section up to Piccadilly, it has a tram service that starts at 3am, national coach services, buses and then directly connected to the motorway network.
The only weak spot really is trains going south, but given how much of a fuss Arriva had to make to get more north wales, just how much fuss will be needed for Southbound trains is anyone's guess, especially as it seems even 4 platforms are very busy.
What else can they do other than subsidise ground transport to make it more attractive?
The station is a crock of sh1t for anyone using T3 humping heavy luggage. There are no direct buses from levenshulme, Longsight, Heaton Chapel, Bramhall, Handforth & many other places. Buses that do operate are too slow, everything is routed via Wythenshawe town centre & there is next to no luggage space on them. Bus fares are so high that if 2 of you are travelling it's cheaper to get a taxi - thus clogging the roads. Apart from that, the public transport is great.
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Ken O'Toole
Nothing specifically new in this article but always nice to read positive and encouraging comments about growth from the CEO.
Airport?s success is a boost to the whole north west region - - Manchester Evening News
Nothing specifically new in this article but always nice to read positive and encouraging comments about growth from the CEO.
Airport?s success is a boost to the whole north west region - - Manchester Evening News
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But the rail station reaches the best point it can to serve all 3 terminals. It would be great if you could get heavy rail to the doors of all terminals, but, that's a pipe dream.
I found the walk from T3 to the rail station no worse than the walk from Heathrow central to T3.
As for the buses, we need to be realistic, there aren't going to be buses to all corners of Cheshire and Manchester.
I found the walk from T3 to the rail station no worse than the walk from Heathrow central to T3.
As for the buses, we need to be realistic, there aren't going to be buses to all corners of Cheshire and Manchester.
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What else can they do other than subsidise ground transport to make it more attractive?
I've done my sums and long stay it will be!