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Old 28th Sep 2015, 08:03
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Norwegian

Other sites reporting that Norwegian n have MAN in their system showing flights to Boston and more but nothing bookable and no schedule yet.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 09:11
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I spotted that too Gavin.

I know NAX are starting ORK-BOS with 738's, but MAN-BOS is over 3150 miles which surely stretching it more than a little for a 738, but on the other hand I can't see they have enough 787's to send to MAN either.

Guess we'll have to wait and see...but would be good to BOS back on the departure boards.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 09:47
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Originally Posted by eggc
Guess we'll have to wait and see...but would be good to BOS back on the departure boards.
BOS will be back on the MAN boards next summer anyway regardless of Norwegian. Thomas Cook will be operating 2 weekly from May.
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Ohhh, I forgot about that LAX_LHR ! Typical if NAX did start it that case !!
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B737-800 Range

Don't know about Norwegian, but Ryanair give their B737-800s a range of "Maximum 3,200nm" Maybe a MAN-ORK-BOS-MAN-ORK is a posibility?
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 13:53
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Can't see any value in the Man/Ork/Bos/Ork/Man rotation.
Besides Thomas Cook will be operating the route they have
Done a great job in promoting Manchester and the North.
I don't think Manchester is the place for Norweigen to expand
Their long haul product. They barely have any short haul services at the moment.
Maybe BHX would be a better option for them or continue with LGW expansion.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 14:55
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Disagree, MAN is exactly the market Norwegian can do very well in, I'm not even sure Thomas Cook will be around in five years time in their current form. Theys eem to lurch from one calamity to another, behind the scenes the airline is a little confused.....

Long haul loco point to point, if it is sustainable in the medium term, then MAN-USA is exactly the market Norwegian need to own.
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Old 29th Sep 2015, 11:06
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David Cameron pitches the 'northern powerhouse' to the US - Manchester Evening News

Reckon the Americans will love the phrase "Powerhouse"! Let's hope it all comes to something and develops TATL routes.
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Reckon the Americans will love the phrase "Powerhouse"! Let's hope it all comes to something and develops TATL routes.
There was a report/rumour on a large blue net site that UA were going to add ORD-MAN next year.

I assume in addition to IAD and EWR...

Thread has now been deleted. Make of that what you will.
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Old 29th Sep 2015, 13:42
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There was a rumour a few weeks ago about MAN-ORD too, even flight times and numbers were published. That too was deleted.

Flight will apparently be end of May until end of Sept/early oct, in addition to IAD/EWR on B757.

Interesting. Times.
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Old 29th Sep 2015, 14:38
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Easyjet have released more flights for the MAN 2016 timetable.

Athens goes from 3 to 4 weekly.

Amsterdam goes from 13 weekly to 22 weekly. 4 daily on Mon/Fri/Sun. With now up to 16 daily on MAN-AMS as well as about 8 daily LPL.

Geneva seems to rise to 10 weekly.

Heraklion back as 2 weekly (wasn't previously bookable)

Berlin drops to 8 weekly from 9 weekly. There are no flights Tue/Sat but double daily runs Mon/Fri/Sun.

Prague moves from 3 weekly to 5 weekly.

Munich goes from 4 weekly to 5 weekly.

Copenhagen goes from 10 weekly to 11 weekly, with double daily Mon/Thu/Fri/Sun.

There may be more. I can't see anything adversely reduced apart from the obvious loss of Moscow, but, the increases look enough to possible need the elusive 10th based unit (elusive in that we have reached the magic 10 promised back when the based opened.).
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Old 29th Sep 2015, 15:20
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Thanks LAX for the update.

Actually, I make it 12 Geneva in June next year but I'd noted 13 from the previous loading. Still up from 10 this summer I think.

SXF I'd noted as 6 previously, the same as this year, so 8 is an increase. (I think it's 8 this winter too)

Unless EZY are operating some more flights with non-based a/c, it could well mean a 10th a/c at MAN, at least for peak summer. I won't have chance to do an analysis before we go away shortly but perhaps someone can confirm whether the new schedule does require 10 based a/c.
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Old 29th Sep 2015, 15:29
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GVA does actually go 12 weekly in June but seems to be 10 weekly before then.

Berlin is 9 weekly this winter, it's daily then double daily Mon/Fri, so, 8 is a slight decrease even if there are more days of double daily.

Surely 10 aircraft needed, we haven't even had any new routes announced yet which Easyjet are usually reliable for.
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Old 29th Sep 2015, 15:35
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easyJet haven't announced any Summer 2016 routes from the uk yet but it's somthing to look forward too because they normally announce new routes every year with last year it being in November.
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Surely 10 aircraft needed, we haven't even had any new routes announced yet which Easyjet are usually reliable for
Yes, good point. This is an updated schedule but may well not be final.

I tend to compare summer against previous summer rather than winter. Some routes will have seasonal variations in frequency; for example, Geneva has usually had a higher frequency over the ski season than in summer.

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Old 29th Sep 2015, 17:10
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It looks like there will be at least 10 based next summer.

Mon-Fri require 10 based, sunday currently needs 8, so some clear gaps.

Saturday is interesting, as there is definitely a need for 11 based at this time, with first wave departures to ALC, AMS, BFS, CFU, GVA, AGP, MLA, MJK, PSA, SOF and VCE.

Now, one flight could be shifted to fit back to 10 based, namely the early BFS which uses a BFS based aircraft the rest of the week.

The only one I can't be sure of is CPH. It departs at 1045 so I presume it comes back from an early Euro jaunt, likely an AMS run. If there is an aircraft sat around until 1045 (could be helping alleviate early morning traffic), then 11 based aircraft needed for most of the week.
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Old 29th Sep 2015, 17:54
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EZY

Been having a very quick look. Nothing yet on sale after third week in June so too early to say what is happening for certain.

However I have noticed that there seem to be for some destinations more flights in April than in June. For instance AMS gets 4 flights on Sunday in April but not in June when there are three and there are other similar situations.

Will have a better look when I can.
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Old 29th Sep 2015, 18:14
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The dates I tried were June, and 6 days out of 7 requiring 10 based or more is surely a good sign.

Even if there are some frequency flips, 10 based is still good to go.
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Plea to Chinese businesses to invest in Greater Manchester projects worth almost £5bn - Manchester Evening News

..and don't forget the "wait for it" Northern PITCHFORK

priceless editorial by the MEN !

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Old 29th Sep 2015, 18:39
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The dates I tried were June, and 6 days out of 7 requiring 10 based or more is surely a good sign.

Even if there are some frequency flips, 10 based is still good to go.
Agreed but I haven't seen EZY have that many extra flights in April over June before.
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