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Completely understandable, was just pulling your leg
As Shed correctly points out nobody wants anybody to lose their job due to loose lips on here.
On to terminal development...the old control tower office block is to stay for another 10 years, so any major T1 development will either work around it, or be in 10 years ! Obviously will not affect rebuilding of pier B, or extension of T3...if these things are in the pipeline anytime soon.
Completely understandable, was just pulling your leg
As Shed correctly points out nobody wants anybody to lose their job due to loose lips on here.
On to terminal development...the old control tower office block is to stay for another 10 years, so any major T1 development will either work around it, or be in 10 years ! Obviously will not affect rebuilding of pier B, or extension of T3...if these things are in the pipeline anytime soon.
With regards to daily service, when the application was seen a couple of months ago for days 3, 5 and 7 for 3 weeks in October 2015, and subsequent slots for winter 15 which doesn't include 3, 5 and 7, the answer was it's a standard thing to put in for the slots, as it is easier to withdraw them rather than try to get them at a later stage, standard industry practice I'm told.
How many times on here have we seen reports of airline xyz slot application and nothing happening?
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Iberia going to give MAN yet another try from September 2015.
4 weekly to begin with, daily from 2016.
IB3692 MAD 1135 MAN 1305
IB3693 MAN 1350 MAD 1710
Tue/Wed/Fri/Sat
A320 to be used this time.
4 weekly to begin with, daily from 2016.
IB3692 MAD 1135 MAN 1305
IB3693 MAN 1350 MAD 1710
Tue/Wed/Fri/Sat
A320 to be used this time.
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I think we can firmly say that with a reduction of flights at MAN and now this, the love affair between MAN and DY is over. Shame.
That aside, having been away for 11 days, it was good to read some positive news, rumours and M.E.N. articles for MAN on return from holiday. Must add that departing on DL at check in and security was very smooth; and, despite arriving back 30 minutes early, unloading was immediate, through immigration in less than 5 minutes and all cases arrived within 35 minutes of on-stand. Yes, I know it's a quieter time of year but well done MAN. The flight only had about 6 empty seats going out, if that, and was about 80% full coming back including high patronage in Business (we were in economy!).
Edit: Ah, just read your post about Iberia, LAX LHR: Is this slot requests or an official start? MAD seems to be back in favour with Ryanair increasing frequency as well.
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Iberia is bookable on website but it is Iberia Express not the mainline
http://www.travelmole.com/news_featu...etreg®ion=2
http://www.travelmole.com/news_featu...etreg®ion=2
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I suspect that Norwegian's choice of BHX is market-led rather than indicative of a fall-out with MAN. Look at the three destinations. Malaga, Barcelona and Madrid. All three are symptomatic of the market saturation problems which have afflicted Monarch Airlines so recently (flies AGP and BCN, served MAD briefly).
MAN-AGP is one of the most competitive routes out there. There is no shortage of capacity. I have no inside track on yields but I'd bet on them not being great viewed over 12 months. MAN-MAD is currently the preserve of Ryanair, and as LAX_LHR tells us just today, Iberia Express is set to join the fray. IIRC, Ryanair plans upto 10 departures weekly on MAD, Iberia Express plan 4 weekly rising to 7. History tells us that is plenty for the Madrid route; we want no repeat of what happened in the recent past when four carriers launched in the same season. MAN-BCN is another well served route on which you would rarely struggle to book a seat. Would it be healthy from an airline perspective to add another carrier on this route?
Sometimes we need to be careful what we wish for. Yes, NAX is a great airline and I'm sure we'd all dearly love to see them expand here. But route selection is important. We must avoid a scenario of bloodbath routes ex-MAN (as Madrid and Berlin once were) which result in carriers exiting the market believing they can't make money here. With BHX-BCN seeing two new entrants close together, I hope that route can still make money as it is. Certainly, I would be very concerned to see new entrants (whoever they are) pitching in on MAN-AGP/BCN at present, and two carriers on MAD appears sufficient to me. Remember as well … anyone who tries their luck on these three routes needs to take on an incumbent Ryanair and win. To steal a line from Hollywood, "Feeling Lucky, Punk?"
MAN-AGP is one of the most competitive routes out there. There is no shortage of capacity. I have no inside track on yields but I'd bet on them not being great viewed over 12 months. MAN-MAD is currently the preserve of Ryanair, and as LAX_LHR tells us just today, Iberia Express is set to join the fray. IIRC, Ryanair plans upto 10 departures weekly on MAD, Iberia Express plan 4 weekly rising to 7. History tells us that is plenty for the Madrid route; we want no repeat of what happened in the recent past when four carriers launched in the same season. MAN-BCN is another well served route on which you would rarely struggle to book a seat. Would it be healthy from an airline perspective to add another carrier on this route?
Sometimes we need to be careful what we wish for. Yes, NAX is a great airline and I'm sure we'd all dearly love to see them expand here. But route selection is important. We must avoid a scenario of bloodbath routes ex-MAN (as Madrid and Berlin once were) which result in carriers exiting the market believing they can't make money here. With BHX-BCN seeing two new entrants close together, I hope that route can still make money as it is. Certainly, I would be very concerned to see new entrants (whoever they are) pitching in on MAN-AGP/BCN at present, and two carriers on MAD appears sufficient to me. Remember as well … anyone who tries their luck on these three routes needs to take on an incumbent Ryanair and win. To steal a line from Hollywood, "Feeling Lucky, Punk?"
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As always, Shed makes a very good point. Unlike the CX service which is likely to add 'new' passengers for MAN (see discussion on another forum), more flights to the likes of Malaga, Palma and Faro would probably lead to a redistribution and thinning of passengers on existing carriers rather than create extra business. However, it is not always easy to judge when that saturation point is reached, especially if there is a climate of optimism and overall market growth and not just at MAN. (Is that the case now - not sure?).
Perhaps BCN & MAD are slightly different in that they should be attracting an element of business traffic where timings and/or frequency may also count.
I wasn't aware of Ryanair's plans for 10 x weekly to MAD. I thought it was 4 increasing to 5 or possibly 6, but I well may be out of touch.
Perhaps BCN & MAD are slightly different in that they should be attracting an element of business traffic where timings and/or frequency may also count.
I wasn't aware of Ryanair's plans for 10 x weekly to MAD. I thought it was 4 increasing to 5 or possibly 6, but I well may be out of touch.
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IB/I2
I wish you all the best of British luck with I2, I don't imagine they will last long, and from the customer perspective I would stick to FR because IMHO the IB experice is dire, irrespective of I2/IB 
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Thought there was a no diversion rule still in place?
https://twitter.com/PzFeed/status/543431474746494977
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Recent no diversion NOTAMs were short in length, mainly to cover nights where fog was expected and usually expired at like 11am the day after. There is no long term ban, however someone is probably busy creating a new short term one to last until tomorrow as I type !
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A quote from Skyballs
Nick Adderley, a police chief superintendent, was also stuck on the tarmac at Gatwick after trying to fly home to Manchester.
He told Sky News: "This is a business flight for me… [I am] trying to get home after a business meeting in London.
Was on Sky, must be true !
Nick Adderley, a police chief superintendent, was also stuck on the tarmac at Gatwick after trying to fly home to Manchester.
He told Sky News: "This is a business flight for me… [I am] trying to get home after a business meeting in London.
Was on Sky, must be true !
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Easy Jet
It would seem that the gap in the timetable on a Monday morning has now been filled with and addition flight to Santorini D MAN 0745 ARR MAN 1635.
It looks like Santiago and Paris won't feature for summer 2015 unless they operate on non based aircraft which it is said might happen for Paris.
It would seem that the gap in the timetable on a Monday morning has now been filled with and addition flight to Santorini D MAN 0745 ARR MAN 1635.
It looks like Santiago and Paris won't feature for summer 2015 unless they operate on non based aircraft which it is said might happen for Paris.
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Flybe
Before BHX overtook it last year I always thought SOU was Flybe's largest base? As it stands according to the press releases BHX has up to 336 weekly departures and SOU has up to 320, it will be interesting to see how MAN compares to these.
