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Old 7th Nov 2014, 15:03
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Commercial cancellations, especially short-term ones, tend to be a no-no for two reasons:
  1. EU261 liability (unless the payout << the likely loss from operating the flight)
  2. (if they happen with any regularity) the big flashing red neon sign which appears in every time-sensitive (=high-yield) passenger's mind: "This airline is not to be trusted to get me to my important meeting" and which is very hard to eradicate. In general, significant numbers of short-term commercial cancellations are often a harbinger of failure of either the route or the airline.

I have never heard of an "IATA rule" about these and can't even imagine how this would work.
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Old 7th Nov 2014, 15:40
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The SkyWork 'cancellations' referred to are rotations that have not even been on sale since at least 13th October - perhaps longer - so they don't really fit into either of those categories. Quite why they have chosen not to operate those originally timetabled flights I don't know. Perhaps it's just a matter of a forward-planned anticipation of limited demand for the days in question.
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Old 7th Nov 2014, 17:41
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At least the airline is saving money on first class rail travel to and from Southend
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Old 7th Nov 2014, 18:54
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And the landing and handling fees, plus the fuel saved brilliant business plan!
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 13:09
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Maybe a little bit off topic but does anyone know what type of aircraft the two very old aircraft are at the bottom of aviation way? Does anyone know a little history about them?
I saw them when flying out of there recently and I was just curious about the history of those two very old aircraft.

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Old 10th Nov 2014, 14:14
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They are ex Ausralian Air Force HS-748's:

a bit more about why they are there here: Hotelier?s plan for aeroplane weddings (From Echo)

....although those plans seem to have completely fallen through now.
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 15:37
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Flybe/Aer Lingus Agreement

I noticed that today Flybe have officially signed a codeshare agreement with Aer Lingus for transatlantic connections from Dublin.


Flybe secures Aer Lingus codeshare for transatlantic services - www.travelweekly.co.uk
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 16:41
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Even this requires EU approval!

Development partner for airport business park announced (From Echo)
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 17:40
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Even this requires EU approval!
No it doesn't!
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 19:38
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"The decision is subject to a ten-day "stand-still" period which is required by the Official Journal of the European Union procurement procedure"
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 20:01
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Yep - it's part of a procedure, a process, the rules of the game.

The decision doesn't require EU approval in the same way a referee doesn't require the FA's approval to start the second half, its just part of the rules of the game (and the game is trying to ensure that public procurement and other transactions are decided in an open and transparent manner - not a bad objective).
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 20:43
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But will this "Airport Business Park" have any relevance to aviation, other than by name and its proximity to the airport ?
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 08:33
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Newquay

Unless Stobart pick up this route, it would appear to have been lost to STN as BE have announced this morning 3x weekly May-Sep flights at virtually identical times to this year's SEN operation. Only change is Sunday in place of Tuesday.
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 09:13
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Doesn't it look like NQY-STN operates with a NQY based aircraft ?

If so they look like having two based at NQY so there is scope to add to the currently released schedules.


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Old 12th Nov 2014, 10:15
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This is effectively Flybe sticking their middle finger up at SEN. So if LCY is business and SEN leisure, what is STN then? NCL, IOM and NQY missed out on...
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 10:29
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Middle finger? I think not. It's called competition. MAG was clearly able to offer Flybe a better deal overall encompassing the airlines existing operations in Manchester and East Midlands. Something Southend could never offer.

According to the report, Stansted 'offers access for the 'regional leisure passenger cost effective access into London'.

There is a prevailing view on this forum that Southend has an entitlement to new routes. It does not. Until now, competition from Stansted has not cost Southend any new routes. It was inevitable that was going to change.
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 10:36
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It seems that Stobart Sen are finding they are rather lacking in the Marketing/ Business Development department.

They have to be very careful that the loss of momentum isn't perceived as something more serious within the industry.
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 12:44
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There is a prevailing view on this forum that Southend has an entitlement to new routes. It does not. Until now, competition from Stansted has not cost Southend any new routes. It was inevitable that was going to change.
I don't think that's a fair comment, I can't see anyone feeling that SEN is entitled to anything at all, only that its advantages need to be more widely publicised, not least by Stobart. Competition from Stansted lost SEN its new Cologne route before it even started.....

No reason to panic. In fact, it would be good to see if Stobart could run a NQY service from SEN in competition with flyBE from STN - I think there is room for both.
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 13:47
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Fair comment Barling, although in this instance, marketing will of course have had nothing to do with it. I have no doubt that Flybe are well aware of the advantages / disadvantages of all of the London airports.

I agree there is no reason for anyone at Southend to panic. I would however be surprised to see the SEN-NQY reinstated next summer considering capacity on the LGW-NQY will be 50% higher than this summer and the view Flybe would take of its franchisee undermining its Stansted operation.
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 17:22
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Could be that MAG want to nip SEN in the bud. Success breeds success so MAG would be keen to keep its neighbour in check.
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