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Old 4th Mar 2017, 08:24
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Originally Posted by rowly6339
Stobart air have announced that the Embraer jets will be going onto its AOC and crew training currently taking place with Flybe at Exeter. Also there will be a major push on marketing the new routes from mid march.
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Old 4th Mar 2017, 19:23
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Do they think the routes can support each other by carrying Europe > China pax? I'll always wish anyone well, but this seems courageous in the Sir Humphrey sense of the word.

Left Maribor with the same impression as Tophat. It's an amazing country, but Maribor is not one of the most amazing places in it. While that route may indeed have successfully existed from Southend, I suspect it could have more successfully existed from somewhere else...
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Old 4th Mar 2017, 21:40
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I don't think Maribor would do better elsewhere. I've also been, it's OK but not spectacular so much of the demand is going to be inbound to the UK. For that reason it doesn't matter whether the terminus is SEN, STN or LTN. However, wherever it ends up (if anywhere at all) I think an A320 is overkill. I thought it might be a route Stobart would look at given they have the right sized aircraft and data on previous performance. Perhaps the reason they didn't take it forward in the first phase was that they had some confidence SHS/VLM would materialise.
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Old 4th Mar 2017, 21:54
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I too feel that an A320 maybe too much capacity. However, with a larger aircraft you can offer more attractive fares, and it depends on the frequency also. Think VLM might be considering the Fokker 70, which would perhaps be better suited.

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Old 5th Mar 2017, 08:27
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An A320 with decent loads would certainly not go unnoticed elsewhere. And if SHS / VLM are serious people then London would certainly be one of the key destinations for them.

However, despite my usual naive optimism, I find myself doubting whether there is anything here to get excited about.
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Old 5th Mar 2017, 09:08
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Maribor.
I don't think we should be holding our breaths over the Maribor plans. Whilst there is a huge market for pax and cargo from/to China - Europe, the amount of money suggested to update that airport seems unreal. SEN should concentrate on getting the best possible sales on the 12 new routes, and hope that EZY might consider a few new destinations in the future. I doubt if Stobarts have even read anything about VLM Slovenia !
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Old 6th Mar 2017, 14:50
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Well, they seem to have started their work. Stands 7 - 10 are closed by low red and white barriers and there are lots of men wearing hard hats standing round talking! Hope it will all be worth it in the end.
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Old 6th Mar 2017, 17:14
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Other than essential repairs/maintenance, has anyone established if there will be any improvements once the work is complete?
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Old 6th Mar 2017, 18:20
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Other than essential repairs/maintenance, has anyone established if there will be any improvements once the work is complete?
I suppose it depends how you look at it, most of it is refurbishing or repairing exsisting pavement areas but in terms of recent use, then yes great improvements. There has been parking limitations / restrictions on the north apron, terminal stands and south apron stands so it will free up a lot more general parking in all those areas. Twy B has had restricted use (i.e. A319 been using Twy A whenever possible) so it will help with expedition etc. Potentially some additional projects TBC.
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Old 6th Mar 2017, 18:38
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If taxiway Charlie is going to be closed for 3 months (8th March - 8th June) as indicated by tws123, there must be a lot going on to warrant a closure of that length. Any chance that it's being extended to join 05/23 further along which would do away with a lot of backtracking? Is there room to do it? Just a thought.
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Old 6th Mar 2017, 19:01
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Originally Posted by SEN Observer
If taxiway Charlie is going to be closed for 3 months (8th March - 8th June) as indicated by tws123, there must be a lot going on to warrant a closure of that length. Any chance that it's being extended to join 05/23 further along which would do away with a lot of backtracking? Is there room to do it? Just a thought.
No it will not be moved further along to the west, not enough room for a parallel TWY.
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Old 6th Mar 2017, 19:25
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I'm glad that these issues are now being seriously addressed. There's a vital couple of years lying ahead for SEN. With luck and a following wind the airport could be a much busier place in summer 2019.
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Old 6th Mar 2017, 19:36
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Presumably if they are starting work now, they must have got the all clear from Rochford Council. Being a permitted development application meant a quicker decision. Wasn't there some talk a while back that airlines were put off by the taxiway conditions, or that poor taxiways was the reason for EZY pulling their 4th based aircraft? I find that hard to believe, but could it be a significant deciding factor?
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Old 7th Mar 2017, 00:29
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Why would EZY pull one aircraft from SEN and keep three remaining aircraft based at SEN based on poor taxiways, seems an odd suggestion.
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Old 7th Mar 2017, 08:38
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It is an odd suggestion. I think the original claim (some 2 years ago now) was that it was to give SEN a kick up the backside to sort out the taxiways and stands.
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Old 7th Mar 2017, 09:01
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If it takes two years for the message to travel from the backside to the brain SEN must be an exceedingly large dinosaur. Let's hope for a swift evolution into a high flying bird.
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Old 7th Mar 2017, 20:38
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EZY pulling out the 4th aircraft had nothing to do with the TWYs, it was for commercial reasons (i.e. They believed they could make more money basing it elsewhere). As Canberra said, no logic in that 'talk'.
The delay in doing the repairs is simply based on finance, business plans and timing. To sort this stuff out will probably cost about £5 million so no-one is going to sign that off until potential business is there. With the new STK operation and the increase in traffic they are hoping for in 2018/2019 this is quite possibly the last window they have to do major pavement work without causing major disruption to a busier commercial operation.
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Old 9th Mar 2017, 07:20
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Southend misses out on the Dundee - London contract. The route will continue into STN with Loganair as it was the cheaper of the two bids made.
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Old 9th Mar 2017, 08:00
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If taxiway Charlie is going to be closed for 3 months (8th March - 8th June) as indicated by tws123, there must be a lot going on to warrant a closure of that length.
After watching what is happening at Luton the speed of the project is determined by the size of the workforce. What 20 men can achieve in a month would take 2 men and their dog around 10 months. Alas for of some of the projects at Luton has the dog involved.
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Old 9th Mar 2017, 08:16
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Work project

What breed of dog is it ?
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